UM excuse me i really take that christian basher line to heart, i suppose you dont know but my best friend is a very religious, non denomination christian( I am his best man for when he gets married next year, you think a chirstian would make a christian basher his bestman, who is assuming now jackass), 3 of my roommates are very devote baptists. You think I have an elitist mindset, I'm sorry you think that way, thats your problem the fact of the matter is, that the argument is going in a circular pattern now, and I dont have the time or effort to argue with people over things like this over a board, sit down and have a coffee with me and ill debate you till the sunset. The fact of the matter is so many of your ideas are contradictory and i just dont want to sit here on a forum debating it all day long cause frackly I dont have the time nor effort for it. if any of you dumbasses(Lj your not included in that) had read my previous posts you'd see that i am not a democrat, and that i see good and bad in both sides.
Here is an example of a contradiction I see, now i am assuming you are religious here in the view point. you are opposed to abortion, cause its a unborn life (thats fine and noble i have no problem with that however keep in mind you don't know the kid, you have no idea about any about him/her). however when it comes to your money all you care about are those who are directly around you(LJ when i said me me me, i was including your family in that lump sum sry of that wasn't clear) and you dont want your money going into medicare, or welfare or anything like that(again i am assuming you are against wellfare if you arent i am sry), Now i am assuming the reason for that is because you dont want to give money to these people because you feel they dont work hard(get me some stats on that to back up your veiwpoint if that is the case). So often the case i find here is that you dont know these people so you dont want to give money to them, why are these people so different from the baby. You care for one but not the other, and dont kid yourself, so many of these people would be dead, without medicare or welfare so dont think you can ride the high horse and say the baby's life is in question. There are worse things out there then death, and if you are so keen on judging these people, oh there is a line out there some guy said it, i think his name iwas JESUS, "Let ye without sin cast the first stone" people make mistakes in there life, and thats how they end up on welfare, i am sure you made mistakes not as big as they did but still, every person was once that little fetus you want to save so badly, and you want to not give them money cayse you worked hard for it and they didn't you may not think like this, but thats the way I see it when i hear people saying they dont support welfare or medicare because the poeple that use it are crackheads or whatever the excuse is. In my opinion there is no excuse that isnt selfish unless you are giving more then you can afford to give, because these people are less fortunate then you, and being a good person you help them. Thats what we do in Canada and America, we help people that are less fortunate then us. You may argue that oh the welfare and medicare are the governments way of forcing us to give charity. IT SHOULDNT BE A PROBLEM,you are giving your money to help people that are less fortunate. And you know what after allt hat if you still have a problem how about you just think like this. Not everyones money goes to medicare and welfare only part of the taxes go there. Just assume, or think, that your money went to buying that cruise missle that blew up the poor families house cause it missed its target. or that your money went towards buying the bullets that have killed so many people in a country you probably have never even been to. what about thoy se peoples lives you have no problem apposing abortion but you are all about supplying money to your army that yes may save some lives, but are designed to kill. They may be different issues but a life is a life. And here you may argue oh well those are the bad guys they want to kill us. EVER wonder hmm why do thewant to kill us. So many issues it can jump all over the place but thats the thing that frustrates me. You hold your views so strongly on all fronts when at the basic purist level they are so contradictory. On one hand you care about the babys life, on the other hand you dont give a fuck for someone who had a rough life, ever wonder why they got addicted to crack, you gotta start somewhere, nor do you care about the people dieing around the world due to the american military yeah they may be 'bad guys' but ever wonder why they are the way they are. A life is a LIFE. you dont know those people that your money goes towards hurting or killing yet you judge them as bad right away and justify your armies actions, or so it seems please correct me if i am wrong. I would be a much happier person if i was wrong.
and thats it i am done, cause now your pissing me off, calling me a christian basher, OH i could bash the fuck out of your religion if i wanted to but i choose not to cause i was respectful of your beliefs, fucking douche go hump your womanising, slavery condoning, cencored(oh yes your holy book has been 'modified' many a time) book.
now seeing as i broke probably about a dozen forum roles, insulting other forum member, and what not, jay i await your banning me.