I agree that I went a little overboard. It's probably because I have rarely if ever seen Jay post in a political discussion thread. Couple that with the insane idea that because it's the "United States" that it means we're all suddenly suppose to start taking care of each other, regardless of circumstances, and I got a little bent out of shape.
Now, do I agree with any kind of government care? Sure, for veterans and for people who honestly have nowhere else to go. Veterans serve this country and deserve at least some kind of services for that.
On the other hand, I am almost completely against "Universal Healthcare". I have enough problems of my own that I don't need the govt deciding that they need to take even more of my money to help everyone else because of their situation as well. I have a mortgage, a wife, a kid, and one more on the way. If I have money left over at the end of the month, let me decide how best to use it. It might go to home repairs, charity, or to help some poor shmoe on the street. In fact, I would rather directly donate to a charity or a food bank where I know the money/food is going to go to people that need it, instead of some govt worker who's only going to do the bare minimum work necessary to get through the day.
What I really don't appreciate is the unnecessary interjection of what is essentially a national security issue into a discussion on govt provided healthcare (that's what got this going). National security is the primary responsibility of the federal government. So if they need to spend half a million dollars on a Clinton policy, so be it.
My feelings about this womans family and her stepdad stand. He's a sick fuck. They need to step up and help her out. Especially considering that she may be developmentally disabled. I can't even find anything recent on this whole thing, so we don't even know what happened. Whether she got the abortion or not, she's still going to need some help from someone. There's going to be emotional damage as well as further healthcare necessary, both because of the abortion and the incest.
I also stand by my opinion that if you want to help someone out, by all means please do. I don't have a problem helping people out. I do it all the time. I have a problem with the govt saying "You have to help these people out".
I think it's a bit of bullshit that I get attacked for having a strong argument against govt healthcare and it being "our" problem, but the "Emperor" gets a pass for his snide remarks. You're entitled to your opinion, but I fired back the way I did because of your snotty remarks. If you want socialized healthcare so much, move to Canada. I hear it's great as long as you don't get sick.