Lj, I agree with you that the baby should not be punished for the sins of his father. And I really don't think the state should be paying for the euthanization of babies. However, I don't think she should have to lose government aid on other things because she has an abortion. Abortion is still legal in the United States, therefore I do not think people who have abortions should be demonized for it. Especially since so many of them have a hard time grasping the fact that an unborn fetus is within all reason nothing other than a human life (which is because they are taught very adamantly that it isn't). For the abortion debate to go anywhere, there is a lot of educating that needs to take place. I have confidence that sometime in the distant future, abortion will be regarded as an ignorant barbaric practice, much like we see things like female gentile mutilation and feet tying today.
The fact is the world is not a prefect place, and you end up with families who don't have the means or will to take care of their family members in need. I think the government should help people when there is a genuine need. I think it goes too far some time, and leads to enabling the ones being helped. I have worked with people who think the government owes them something for nothing. That attitude bugs the crap out of me.
I think monthly drug testing and maybe even some sort of community service requirement for those out of employment who are capable of work could go along way to making sure government aid goes to those who deserve it.
Lj, does every political conversation have to be so harshly argued? You used to be much better than this. You and I are pretty close in our political views most of the time, and I agree with much of what you have said, but not the way you have said it. Everyone is entitled to their own views. Jay is a great guy, and he rarely ever engages in discussion with us. The very few times he does I am very happy to hear what he has to say, whether I agree with it or not. I think you were being a bit harsh on the guy. Your arguments (and you often have very good ones) will go over a lot better if they are more calmly presented.