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Hey now, I cut my hair off quite some time ago! :P

And you're right, marijuana is not physically addictive, along with other hallucinogens (LSD, mushrooms, etc.) because they primarily affect your mind, not your body. The only ones that can become physically addictive are drugs that affect you physically (cocaine, PCP, etc.) And no, I don't know that from experience. :P

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I HAVE AN OLD FRIEND WHO IS ADDICTED TO WEED, AND MY LITTLE BROTHER IS IN PRISON FOR DRUGS.  HOWEVER, I'M ALL FOR LEGALIZING WEED.  I DON'T DO IT, NOR HAVE I EVER.  I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE DOING IT AS LONG AS THEY DO IT RESPONSIBLY.  I HAVE FRINDS WHO DO IT RESPONSIBLY, AND I HAD FRIENDS WHO DIDN'T.  THAT'S LIFE.  PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT.  THEY HANDLE THINGS DIFFERENTLY.  THAT'S A GOOD THING.

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I just feel that there all a waste of time and money. Expensive or cheap (relatively speaking), addictive or non-addictive, socially acceptable or not, illegal or legal, I feel there all worthless. So much more to life and better ways to spend it...I have obviously figured it out being on a forum so much LOL.

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Nanner Split said:

In all seriousness though, most of the time alcohol is what causes people to lose their inhibitions. Weed doesn't, for the most part (because there are always exceptions). At least personally-speaking; with alcohol I want to wander off and do something ridiculous (I believe I jumped off a friend's roof into his pool once when drunk, although to be fair this roof in particular was quite close to the ground), whereas when I'm high all I want to do is sit on the couch and eat.

How drunk were you when that happened?  The last time I was that drunk, about 2 years ago, all I wanted to do was keep drinking and watch movies.

I don't really have a problem with most adults that smoke an occasional joint.  The problem is usually when you have someone underage that starts smoking it occasionally, but then it becomes an addiction.  Most peoples brains haven't fully developed until around 18 years old and anything that alters your mental state before then is just asking for trouble.

 

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There may be a higher prevalence of someone becoming addicted when they start using from a young age but the fact of the matter is that anyone at any age came become highly addicted to drugs. It takes a mere string of bad luck to push some people over from casual user to highly addicted. And older people usually have the means to purchase the hardcore drugs. I also think its extremely foolhardy for people to write off “casual” drug use of socially acceptable drugs as not a big thing. Alcohol being a prime example, has taken more lives than most any other drug out there. But people still think No real harm if people are “responsible” BS. As Ive said Ive known a close person who has gone from the “small,” stuff to the hardcore drugs and ruin their lives, Ive knew a kid from high school who overdosed and died because of it (who was a casual user). I knew another kid from high school who was drinking during his birthday, fell over a railing from a few stories up and is permanently disfigured because of it. A long time family friend who graduated with High Honors from Harvard happened to be moderately drunk one night after graduating, fell off over a balcony and died. So to say that these “causal” drugs are harmless is profoundly stupid to say. It takes nothing more than a slight mishap while drunk or high for some serious bad sh!* to occur, but by all means think of drug use as a casual thing to do, but don’t think you cant be just another statistic because of your “casual” lifestyle, and because you do it “responsibly” Hahanah so ridiculous.

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GhostAlpha26 said:

A long time family friend who graduated with High Honors from Harvard happened to be moderately drunk one night after graduating, fell off over a balcony and died. So to say that these “causal” drugs are harmless is profoundly stupid to say. It takes nothing more than a slight mishap while drunk or high for some serious bad sh!* to occur, but by all means think of drug use as a casual thing to do, but don’t think you cant be just another statistic because of your “casual” lifestyle, and because you do it “responsibly” Hahanah so ridiculous.

Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating.  Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.

Drinking and smoking pot can be done "responsibly", whether you want to believe it or not.  Plenty of people do it every day.  Do accidents happen?  Sure.  But they're easily preventable when you aren't so drunk that you throw common sense out the window.  If you're so drunk that you can barely walk, the balcony probably isn't a good place to be.  Most people know that even if you're only "moderately" drunk, it's not a good idea to be outside if you're not on the ground floor.

 

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PLUS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DRUNK OR STONED TO FALL OFF A BALCONY.  ACCIDENTS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.  I DARE SAY THAT MORE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN THAT AREN'T DRUG OR ALCOHOL RELATED THEN ACCIDENTS THAT ARE.

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Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating.  Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.


Well now that you have made a generalized statement about something you knew very little about, it can hold up for any situation.

People can  drink responsibly but no one graduating college can drink moderately...youve got it all figured out and its obvious you thought your statements through LOL

You truly are an indignant prick. And a predictable tool as usual :)

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GhostAlpha26 said:
lordjedi said:

Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating. Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.


Well now that you have made a generalized statement about something you knew very little about, it can hold up for any situation.

People can drink responsibly but no one graduating college can drink moderately...youve got it all figured out and its obvious you thought your statements through LOL

You truly are an indignant prick. And a predictable tool as usual :)

ah I see now, making friends and influencing people is what you do here.....very nice. Keep up the good work.

 

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Ghost, why do you get such kicks out of insulting people and being an ass? I can understand not really caring what people think about you on an internet forum. It would be stupid too. But what is the reason for wanting everyone to hate you? It is very childish to use the internet forum as a mask to hid behind while you go around being an ass. Personally, I think being an ass is a hell of a lot more dangerous than using drugs of any kind. Many more "accidents" happen to asses than to drug users. You act like an ass on the internet, because you think nobody can "accidentally" break your jaw when you are hiding behind a computer screen. But your still an ass, and fewer and fewer people here like you everyday because you insult them and call them names just because you can, or because they disagree with you about a movie or video game. You may not care about that, but perhaps you should. You certainly have nothing to be proud of yourself about.

 

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GhostAlpha26 said:
lordjedi said:

Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating.  Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.


Well now that you have made a generalized statement about something you knew very little about, it can hold up for any situation.

People can  drink responsibly but no one graduating college can drink moderately

Of course they can.  That's the point.  People can drink moderately and responsibly.  Your ridiculous comments suggesting that people can't drink responsibly are totally asinine and are only based on your anecdotal evidence.  There's plenty of other evidence that shows people are more than capable of drinking (and doing drugs) responsibly.

The point is that just because you think "responsible" drinking is a joke, doesn't mean it is.  It just means you've seen some seriously bad shit happen to people that also happen to be drinking.  Bad shit can happen to anyone whether they're walking down the street totally sober or sitting on the couch at home watching TV.  I can safely say that I'm more than capable of drinking responsibly and drink one or two beers 3 nights out of the week.

 

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There may be a higher prevalence of someone becoming addicted when they start using from a young age but the fact of the matter is that anyone at any age came become highly addicted to drugs. It takes a mere string of bad luck to push some people over from casual user to highly addicted. And older people usually have the means to purchase the hardcore drugs. I also think its extremely foolhardy for people to write off “casual” drug use of socially acceptable drugs as not a big thing. Alcohol being a prime example, has taken more lives than most any other drug out there. But people still think No real harm if people are “responsible” BS. As Ive said Ive known a close person who has gone from the “small,” stuff to the hardcore drugs and ruin their lives, Ive knew a kid from high school who overdosed and died because of it (who was a casual user). I knew another kid from high school who was drinking during his birthday, fell over a railing from a few stories up and is permanently disfigured because of it. A long time family friend who graduated with High Honors from Harvard happened to be moderately drunk one night after graduating, fell off over a balcony and died. So to say that these “causal” drugs are harmless is profoundly stupid to say. It takes nothing more than a slight mishap while drunk or high for some serious bad sh!* to occur, but by all means think of drug use as a casual thing to do, but don’t think you cant be just another statistic because of your “casual” lifestyle, and because you do it “responsibly” Hahanah so ridiculous.

 

Okay, I'm going to say this again: it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to become physically dependent on marijuana. It is possible to become psychologically addicted to it, as it is possible to become psychologically addicted to just about any consumable substance. It is also IMPOSSIBLE to overdose on weed (I assume this is what you meant by "the small stuff"?).

I actually fibbed in an earlier post becomes I didn't feel like divulging too much of my personal life to a fuckstick like you, but I changed my mind. I have two very good friends who descended very deep into drugs, one of whom with meth, the other with just about every drug you can possibly think of and then some. The latter ended up having a moderate mental breakdown and had to take several prescription drugs every day to keep his mind afloat (he showed me all the stuff he had to take; it was literally a gallon-size Ziploc bag full of pill bottles). And do you want to know what happened to both of them? They both cleaned up their fucking act, and now they're both sober and perfectly fine. The latter weened himself off of his prescription meds;  he feels better than he has in four years and he is no longer overweight. What I'm getting at is that even though people can and do get addicted, part of it also has to do with willpower, and those that have an addiction can quit if that is what they really want, if they truly want to give up whatever desirable effects the drug provides them if it is ruining their lives.

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You can get mentally or emotional addicted to weed, but it is not a real physical addiction. You get addicted to weed because you enjoy the effects and want to experience them all the time, or you decide you cant live your life without it. That is not a real physical addiction. You body doesn't think it needs more weed, only your mind does. Alcohol is this way as well.

I really enjoy beer a lot. I don't drink it all the time, but it is most definitely my drink of preference. On a hot day there is nothing I enjoy more than an ice cold beer (although, as has been talked about before, most beers in America are not worth touching). I drink responsibly. I never get drunk when I drink, I never even get so much as a light buzz. Because that is not what I drink for. I drink because I enjoy the taste, not for the effects of the alcohol. So beyond any shadow of doubt, it is way more than possible to drink responsibly, people do it all the time.

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There are those that smoke a single joint and chill and have fun with their friends on weekends and who work and contribute to society and those who smoke 24/7 and only take away.

Of course Americans do nothing in moderation so legalizing it would probably make it too hard to control people who do it to extreme.

We are always worried of keeping up with Japan and other nations, giving our citizens another excuse to get drunk, high or lazy might be bad.

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There are those that smoke a single joint and chill and have fun with their friends on weekends and who work and contribute to society and those who smoke 24/7 and only take away.

Of course Americans do nothing in moderation so legalizing it would probably make it too hard to control people who do it to extreme.

We are always worried of keeping up with Japan and other nations, giving our citizens another excuse to get drunk, high or lazy might be bad.

Actually, if you legalized it, you could then tax it.  Look at the price of cigarettes.  The cost has more than doubled in the last 10 years as they keep adding taxes to them.  If pot were legalized, they'd just start taxing it to death.  Then at least all the pot heads would have to pay taxes on their habit.

 

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skyjedi2005 said:

 

 

There are those that smoke a single joint and chill and have fun with their friends on weekends and who work and contribute to society and those who smoke 24/7 and only take away.

Of course Americans do nothing in moderation so legalizing it would probably make it too hard to control people who do it to extreme.

We are always worried of keeping up with Japan and other nations, giving our citizens another excuse to get drunk, high or lazy might be bad.

Actually, if you legalized it, you could then tax it.  Look at the price of cigarettes.  The cost has more than doubled in the last 10 years as they keep adding taxes to them.  If pot were legalized, they'd just start taxing it to death.  Then at least all the pot heads would have to pay taxes on their habit.

 

They could always grow it at home or have a dealer.

Remember part of freedom is being responsible.

 

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When you really stop to think about it, it is pretty funny that a naturally growing plant should be illegal.

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Many in my profession are totally against marijuana because we have seen instance after instance that it is , in fact, a gateway drug. I have seen numerous people do marijuana and eventually end up on meth. Now, I certainly do not think it is the rule, but certianly a possibility. The same as an alcoholic starts on beer and finally ends up drinking straight vodka or whiskey. Myself, I wouldn't care if they legalized it and taxed the hell out of it.

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sean wookie said:

They could always grow it at home or have a dealer.

Remember part of freedom is being responsible.

 

Yep, they could.  You'd still, likely, have to pay tax on the seeds and your dealer would probably charge you tax as well.  Seriously sean, if the feds legalized it tomorrow, do you think they wouldn't come up with some way for them to get a take of every sale that took place? If they legalized it tomorrow, then the smugglers would stop bringing it in since the street value would drop to almost nothing.  Once the supply dries up, everyone will have to buy it from reputable dealers who probably had to pay tax on it somewhere down the line.

These are the same people who are trying to introduce taxes on just about everything out here in California.  The latest was an idea to charge a 25 cent fee for each plastic bag you need at the grocery store.  That was an effort to get people to stop getting "one use" bags.  I don't know about you guys, but we usually end up using the bags as trash can liners, so they aren't really "one use".

 

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I think being an ass is a hell of a lot more dangerous than using drugs of any kind. Many more "accidents" happen to asses than to drug users. You act like an ass on the internet, because you think nobody can "accidentally" break your jaw when you are hiding behind a computer screen. But your still an ass, and fewer and fewer people here like you everyday because you insult them and call them names just because you can, or because they disagree with you about a movie or video game. You may not care about that, but perhaps you should. You certainly have nothing to be proud of yourself about.

 

Because people getting drunk at bars (using drugs) every night act so proper and stuff always goes smoothly at bars, and drinking never makes people act ridiculous, you dont get out much do you? Oh and your right I hear about numerous stories detailing how people have horrible things happen to them for being so out of line on the internet, its a much larger number compared to say Drunk driving deaths...hahahaha. You have so much to be proud of by putting someone in their place online, someday I can only hope to be proud of what I do on  internet forums and lead such a fulfilling life :p

 

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PSYCHO_DAYV said:

SORRY, GHOST, BUT YOU'VE LOST THIS ARGUMENT.

Total disappointment, losing things over the internet, I know how important it must be for you :p

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lordjedi said:

Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating.  Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.


Well now that you have made a generalized statement about something you knew very little about, it can hold up for any situation.

People can  drink responsibly but no one graduating college can drink moderately

Of course they can.  That's the point.  People can drink moderately and responsibly.  Your ridiculous comments suggesting that people can't drink responsibly are totally asinine and are only based on your anecdotal evidence.  There's plenty of other evidence that shows people are more than capable of drinking (and doing drugs) responsibly.

The point is that just because you think "responsible" drinking is a joke, doesn't mean it is.  It just means you've seen some seriously bad shit happen to people that also happen to be drinking.  Bad shit can happen to anyone whether they're walking down the street totally sober or sitting on the couch at home watching TV.  I can safely say that I'm more than capable of drinking responsibly and drink one or two beers 3 nights out of the week.

 

 

 

What I was pointing out is, Responsible today, reckless tomorrow. Its just that easy at times with drugs. But now its clear since you can be responsible you have anecdotal evidence to back up your air tight defense.

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Nanner Split said:

Okay, I'm going to say this again: it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to become physically dependent on marijuana. It is possible to become psychologically addicted to it, as it is possible to become psychologically addicted to just about any consumable substance. It is also IMPOSSIBLE to overdose on weed (I assume this is what you meant by "the small stuff"?).

I actually fibbed in an earlier post becomes I didn't feel like divulging too much of my personal life to a fuckstick like you, but I changed my mind. I have two very good friends who descended very deep into drugs, one of whom with meth, the other with just about every drug you can possibly think of and then some. The latter ended up having a moderate mental breakdown and had to take several prescription drugs every day to keep his mind afloat (he showed me all the stuff he had to take; it was literally a gallon-size Ziploc bag full of pill bottles). And do you want to know what happened to both of them? They both cleaned up their fucking act, and now they're both sober and perfectly fine. The latter weened himself off of his prescription meds;  he feels better than he has in four years and he is no longer overweight. What I'm getting at is that even though people can and do get addicted, part of it also has to do with willpower, and those that have an addiction can quit if that is what they really want, if they truly want to give up whatever desirable effects the drug provides them if it is ruining their lives.

Hey great story dude, so its kinda like its "whatever it takes" right man? Kinda like whatever it takes to win an internet debate with someone by lying to them initially and in doing so insulting your two "very close friends" for the sake of the debate HAHAHAHAHA 

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vbangle said:

ah I see now, making friends and influencing people is what you do here.....very nice. Keep up the good work.

 

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