Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *) — Page 16

Small update: 

I have the prologue!  I actually converted it to vob format and burned it to a dvd. I might still be able to pull it up in vegas , but I'm missing some of the music files.

I still have the mace/palp duel in vob format.  I think that's on the net though.

Couple of things I'd like to show , but I never converted them to vob and I don't have Darth Editous's version of ANH anymore.  I'm trying to get a copy of that again so I can pull up the rest of the stuff in Vegas and convert it to something I can upload.

Most of the work happened with DE's ANH and somehow I lost it.  :(

bkev was in the process of uploading DE's version to mininova and it may be there now. It's available via RS, too. I could send you a copy, if you'd like.

I have obtained a copy of DE's ANH disc. Many thanks to whoever was seeding it on mininova!

I'm going to post the "death scene" as we called it later tonight.  This scene probably more than anything represents what we were trying to do.  This should go without saying, but the scene was never finished, it is very rough.  No audio at some points, very few foley effects, some things out of sync, etc etc..... 

Things we did do, created new lightsaber sound effects, "Pleasantville effect", used HD version of ANH to crop and pan the closeup of Luke and added new background music of course.

ID was also going to do this scene with "Star Wars music" in case this didn't fit for some people, but he never got around to it. 

I will be posting more as I dig up old veg files. :)

Here's the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/135616515/reborn_test_clip1.wmv.html

Wow is all I can say. I Normally say alot!

I should be able to post a few more clips.  Some of them I have to do some work on or they wouldn't mean anything.  They were just ideas that we layed out on the timeline.  One in paticular I have to re-create again. I know we did it, but I can't find a veg file that has it intact.

I know everyone wants to see the "InfoDroid approved" love scene, but that's the one I'm not sure I have everything for.  I'll be checking when I have time and let everyone know.

DarthBo said:

Wow, that was really good!

I really like how it all seems to fit together. I'm not to keen on some of the new music, but I do like most of the changes.

Got some more clips? :)

 I really wish ID would have had time to do the scene with "Star Wars music" but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.  :(

and I'm not the creative one so please don't ask! :)

Thank you for posting that, tj! It's nice to see more insights into the project like this. I just watched it and I'm quite impressed! I really hope that someone can take the ball and run with it, because seeing that reenforces how unique and creative this project is.

Whoa. Powerful stuff.

i really liked the clip. what was the music used at the gravestones?

 Sorrow by Lisa Gerrard.

Next clip is the love scene.  It's short but I think it would have been very effective.  Same rules apply to this clip. It was never finished.

http://rapidshare.com/files/135705585/reborn_test_clip2.wmv

We also realized while doing this that Vegas is not the software to use for slow motion. 

Hold on, Watching now!

Again, brilliant work. Lucas himself has said the films are in some ways like silent films, carried mostly visually and with music. Both these clips, unlike the prequels themselves, live up to this, and I think the silent-montage technique works really well. I'm not a fan of 'love scenes' in general, simply because I think they're almost impossible to do well and mostly they're unnecessary, but I think it works here.

It also shows just how much the perceived suckiness of the prequels was due to the dialogue. Revenge of the Sith is regarded by many including myself as the strongest of the three, and it had Tom Stoppard working on the script; similarly, The Empire Strikes Back is regarded as the best of the series, and Lucas doesn't get a script credit at all for that one, just a story one. George Lucas can create wonderful worlds and clever plots, but he can't write dialogue.

Finally, if you're referring to the 'jerky' slow-motion effect, I don't mind it. It was done in the original Empire Strikes Back and I think in a film such as Star Wars Reborn which relies on the film medium so much, it suits it better.

The more I see, the more I'm convinced that this project must go on somehow! I'm actually quite eager to watch the prequels...like this. ;)

Next up is the "Bar Scene".  This was our take on it.   Of course no color correction was done and once again the audio was very rough.  You will notice two shots of Boba Fett added.  The idea was to imply that Zam went to the bar to meet with "Jango" since the attempt on Padme went horribly wrong.  We See "Jango" and then see Zam turn away implying she has received further orders from "Jango".   We were going to try and color correct the shots so Boba looked like Jango.  Once Obi-Wan does the slice and dice on her "Jango" makes a quick exit.  I also have to give a nod to Trooperman here,  we borrowed a couple of his ideas which you guys will undoubtedly realize.

I absolutely loved this idea! It finally made sense why Zam would run into a bar with no escape.  Sadly enough ID came up with this idea all on his own.  :(   No creative talent in these bones boys.........   I'm just the "tech" guy. :)

ID also found a great piece of music to play behind this scene.  "Iziz Cantina"

http://rapidshare.com/files/135728870/reborn_test_clip3.wmv.html

Very interesting. I thought the audio sounded good, too.

OH!  I think I found a shot that was all my idea!!  I'm so excited...........  not really..

Anyway this shot pretty much speaks for itself.  We pulled the confession scene from aotc and showed it for the first time here.

http://rapidshare.com/files/135788478/reborn_test_clip4.wmv.html

Okay, now I'm BEGGING anybody with the technical know-how and love of Star Wars to finish this project. It has so much potential. Even with the "unfinished" standard of the clips posted here it would be an amazing alternative way to watch the series. Music bleed, so minor it doesn't bother me. Colour continuity, a little simple grading would suffice for those quick shots. As far as salvaging the quality of the prequels, what you've done here is enough to satisfy all of us save those who despise the PT so much they would hate anything involving it.

...please...? I'd do it myself if I had the first idea about editing and the required technology.

tjdavis, thanks so much for the clips.

I've watched the first three clips so far, and I'm very impressed by how y'all were able to use the flashback approach to cover the high points of the PT. The AOTC love sequence is particularly nice. At this level, it's actually believable that they could fall in love.

As RoccondilRinon said, your edits show that the dialog of the prequels is the weak link. Watching the clips, I began to realize that the prequels really do work better as silent movies. Just by looking, we get the main jist - with little or no dialog. And for the purposes of the story, the main jist is all we need. In short, the "whats" are powerful and relevant, but the "whys" are weak and unnecessary.

Once again, I'm saddened that this project has been dropped, but I understand. These are such great ideas. I hope they find a home eventually.

Thanks.

That last one was good, too. Nice spot to put that scene. Would it have been shown for the first time at that point? I'm thinking that would be wise, especially considering the length of it, if it was already shown before, y'know? Maybe tighten it up a bit if it had been shown in its entirety before.

I never noticed how much she looks like a hippie in that scene. Haha.

tjdavis1138 said:

Anyway this shot pretty much speaks for itself.  We pulled the confession scene from aotc and showed it for the first time here.

 

Sorry, I read that wrong earlier. :p

Thanks for posting those, TJ.  I'm glad you guys on the forum can at least get an idea of what we were trying for. 

I hope you can find the "Prologue", TJ.  That's a good one too, despite its "draft-level" status and technical flaws with the slow-motion.   

--ID