Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released) — Page 76

im still eagerly waiting for this edit, in which ever form it is released. like reborn, i was just as satisfied with the ideas than the actual product, i would like to see the alternative film footages being inserted that you have been doing!:)

Like the majority of those on here, I'm definitely interested in seeing a clip.

I'd like to see a clip too or at least see the older ones put back up.

All right, here's my opinion.

I definetely liked it. It brought a much needed sense of speed and brevity to that scene, which I believe meandered on for way to long in the original. Also, the omissions as well as the more gritty color scheme definetely made things a lot more realistic. However, some things didn't work for me at all.

1.) The white flashes when the car crashed, the made the scene look a bit less fake by obscuring it but they were also very annoying.

2.) Anakin's voice dub, didn't work very well. Even though the line wasn't changed much I thought the performance wasn't very good and it wasn't mixed in very believably either. The cuts at the beginning, or maybe the lack of sound effects, made it feel odd.

3.) The color scheme, while definetely less unnaturally vibrant than the original, a definite improvement, was a little too dark.

I hope you omit the fact that Zam was a changeling (didn't go anywhere) and trim Jango and Boba's dialouge consideraby (a far cry from the tough, man of few words Boba of ESB)

However, I really liked it and am looking forward to seeing this project completed.

Second clip:

Awesome, I really like your fast cuts. The voiceover mixed in much better this time although the voice seems a bit to deep (although that's probably because I'm used to hearing Hayden's voice) The closeup of the insect was nice although it seemed to differ too much from the other shot's of the insect. It was obviously from a different source.

Another thing I'd like to see if possible, although someone with Adywan skills might be needed to do this, is have the alien's "thumb up" removed on that poster at the end. It always seemed a little silly to me.

Josh said:

I think TM wins when you comapre it with this Bantha Crap Original(Note Anakins Voice...)

Yeah, the voice works in that clip better than the original. the transformation to Vader is a lit more believeable with the deeper voice as well.

Trooperman, are you planning on doing the other prequels as well? I'd love to see this treatment given to Episode III especially.

I also have a question about the crawl in Youtube. Are you really using that music? I can't imagine Star Wars without the familiar title music, and I'd really hate to see music recognizably from other series or sources in Star Wars as well.

I've really been thinking about this, and something I'd like to see is a lot more tie-ins with ESB. ESB was the darkest movie of the OT, and I think AOTC, considering it's subject matter should be  very dark film as well. I'd like to see a lot of ESB musical cues get more play in AOTC. The asteroid theme, the Imperial March, Yoda's theme (I loved that little bit of Yoda's theme in the Dooku fight) In many ways, AOTC parallels ESB. The "worm scene" parallels the Wampa scene. there is a proid droid towards the beginning of the movie. Jango Fett is introduced like Boba in the OT. Anakin gets his hand cut off like Luke. AOTC should be like a dark and twisted ESB where the Empire are actually the good guys and the rebels are the bad guys. The problem is that it feels far too upbeat and campy. Dooku currently seems like a pure baddie when he should seem like a conflicted and ultimately right character. Maybe misguided in his motives, his seperatists are the precursor of the rebllion. I'd love to see some rebel themes mixed in with the seperatist themes in a dark and unusual way. It would be great juxtaposition. I'd also like to see Dooku with a yellow or green lightsaber and more talk about his grand ideas from deleted scenes as well as no references to his master I'd order to make the Sidious revelation at the end a complete surprise. Also, no federation themes with the clones! Imperial march! Having the same themes for the seperatist and republican armies really confusing things. Giving the Republic Imperial themes and the Seperatists a few hinted rebel themes would make the whole thing feel more like the twisted and cold work of Sidious that it is. He's the master puppeteer and he's got everyone fooled. I'd also like to see something done with the worm scene that is more suspenseful. I like the close up you added but I'd also like it if the worms are heard and not seen before the Jedi sense them, like the Wampa in ESB. I think more things need to revealed by surprise. The audience doesn't need to know everything before the character's do. It ruins the shock. There needs to be more "oh sh*t!" moments like Vader at dinner in Bespin, the Wampa, I am your father ect. Jango should be introduced by the dart scene instead the pointless little exchange, what the probe is carrying (the worms) needs to be a surprise. Palps heading the seperatists needs to be a surprise. The audience needs to be kept on their feet not bored to death. I also think something should be done about Yoda's voice and appearance. he looks or sounds nothing like ESB and has some really stupid backwards lines. his lightsaber skittles need to preserved for ROTS. It would be awesome if the first time we saw him whip out his saber was unexpectedly to cut down some traitorous clones.

Josh said:

Octorox, Don't worry, he has gotten to many of your points, maybe if he were to reiderate what he is changing maybe you would get a good idea! Or you could read 76 pages!

Yeah, I read the first few pages but idk If I have the patience to read all 76. One thing I'd like to know is if Trooperman still plans to use music from other series like 2001 and Star Trek. That would not be a good thing IMO since Star Wars music is Star Wars and if you can recognize music from elsewhere it sort of takes you out of the Star Wars universe IMO. Idk if Trooperman already answered this.

Octorox said:

Josh said:

Octorox, Don't worry, he has gotten to many of your points, maybe if he were to reiderate what he is changing maybe you would get a good idea! Or you could read 76 pages!

 

Yeah, I read the first few pages but idk If I have the patience to read all 76. One thing I'd like to know is if Trooperman still plans to use music from other series like 2001 and Star Trek. That would not be a good thing IMO since Star Wars music is Star Wars and if you can recognize music from elsewhere it sort of takes you out of the Star Wars universe IMO. Idk if Trooperman already answered this.

 Hey was using some tracks from Blade Runner, but he was mainly using classical pieces as well.