negative1 said:
i'm not sure why you singled out C-3P0 to be used as a redeeming character...
why don't we just fast forward to 'the empire strikes back' to see how pointless, annoying, and grating C-3PO was?
[list to be posted shortly, and no i'm not kidding about this.]............................
you don't have to go far to see the deterioration of the character that really wasn't that serious to begin with in the
first place.... c3po whining and complaining about every little issue, flailing around, aggravating other characters etc..
c3p0=jar jar to some extent wouldn't you think? yes there were other comedic moments, and light-heartedness,
but dont' we need the archetypal comic in the story to relieve the seriousness, and stress?
maybe that's why i always preferred r2d2 any day over c3po,
that character actually did something useful (like saving all their lives several times over).....without being annoying...
later
Wait....I thought we were talking about Star Wars from 1977? Your whole post is been about how Star Wars from 1977 was as childish as the PT movies, and I have given you several scene comparisons to SW and the PT, and it is largely different. I still do think that SW & ESB are made in a more adult tone, but Lucas directed SW and the PT movies, so they are the best examples of seeing how someone had changed through years, as Kersh and Marquand directed the OT sequels, so they essentially had their own style.
My point is you really need to watch the OOT version of SW again, and then watch the PT, and let me know if you don't see a huge tonal different, as the PT is made for kids, and SW'77 is not made for kids, but kids can enjoy it, and that is the difference. The 1977 version is a very gritty version, and as I said, kids can enjoy, but it is not really made for kids. But as you move on with the series, especially when it gets to Jedi, it does get kiddy, and the dialogue gets more ridiculous. Just think of Han shooting first, Luke looking at 2 burnt skeletons, Vader force choking one of the generals on the Death Star, stuff like that in 1977 was not MADE for little kiddies to enjoy.
Come on Negative1, you and I were there in 1977, Lucas did not make this movie thinking kids like us would show up, and buy all the merchandise, as you remember they didn't even have enough action figures for the Christmas of '77, as I remember getting an empty box of Luke Skywalker and waiting til April of 1978 for it to come in the mail. Lucas made ESB more dark in 1980, and kids like me didn't like it at the time, and he realized he had to tone it down or he feared losing that whole audience for the next movie, hence why ROTJ & the PT really are made for kids.