negative1 said:
oh gee, i'm soooooooooooooooo impressed...................an academy nomination?
well, considering how 'annie hall' won, and its competition was 'the goodbye girl'..........what did star wars end up with ? sound/special effects etc...
yeah, dont' forget who also got nominated for BEST Director that year : George Lucas
right next to my bed, i have a small reference book that i look at from time to time:
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its a fun short little book, the quotable star wars.............i've always found fun/thoughtful/good quotes in it..
1) i NEVER SAID there weren't childish or cringe-worthy moments in the prequels, i've never denied it..............................but there are EQUALLY BAD IF NOT WORSE
moments all throughout the original trilogy also..
2) guess what, i was 10 years old when i saw star wars, and even back then i knew a lot of that stuff was written at my level, because i could understand it,
yeah C3P0 was embarrassing to watch, r2d2 wandered around desperately trying to communicate, luke bumbled his way through the dialogue, leia and han
hammed it up..................and darth vader over-acted, along with the rest of the 'british' actors..................and just how did the british accents survive that long?
gee, i guess modern cursing, sayings, and culture (not to mention the hair cuts), didn't date this movie as classic 70's fare.................
so whats your point about childishness, target audiences, and corniness?
i guess you could say we're both right...........
'from a certain point of view'.......................................................[groan]...
later
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Negative one, Annie Hall is a classic, IMO, so StarWars lost to some pretty good competition. I think the Academy Awards are a joke these days, Crash? Chicago? But in the 70's, the Best Picture was always a great picture: Patton in 1971, The Godfather I in 1972, The Sting in 1973, The Godfather II in 1974, One Flew Overs the Cukoos Nest in 1975, Rocky in 1976, Annie Hall in 1977, The Deer Hunter in 1978. Those pictures all hold up today, so the Academy had alot of credibilty before it became a marketing ploy to win like Shakespeare in Love won over Saving Private Ryan.
Now I am not saying that Star Wars is Platoon or Schindlers List, but there is a definite more adult tone in Star Wars and Empire, compared to Jedi and the PT. Trust me I was a kid too when SW came out in 1977, but there is a difference, and somehow SW got a bit more on the kiddy side in Jedi. You can throw lines out like, "Laugh it up fuzzbull." but the bottom line is it is a pretty funny line for the characters that are established, and it isn't forced like the PT movies. What I am saying that is that you had an actor like Harrison Ford who could say funny stuff in the SW universe, and it would be funny. Then you have all this forced humor in the PT with Hayden & Ewan, that just comes off as unfunny, mainly because it was put in there specifically for a laugh, rather then let the character be themselves.
As for C3PO, I disagree with you, the whole Geonosis scene with him with his head off is awful not because what is said, mainly again because it is forced and totally out of place, as Lucas put it in there to try to get a laugh, compared to a part in ESB when they are going through the asteroid field where his annoyance is part of the scene as he honestly thinks Han Solo is crazy for going in there.