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negative1
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Did anybody see Wall-E?
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30-Jul-2008, 10:39 PM
ChainsawAsh said:

I really don't like the idea of 3D replacing 2D films.  I've yet to see a 3D anything that was more than a stupid gimmick.  And virtual reality?  Really?

 

These things don't come overnight.  There's no such thing as "revolutionary," the way you want to see it - everything that advances anything is "evolutionary," and yes, that includes the "revolutionary" concept of Toy Story being the first feature-length 3D-animated film.  It wasn't revolutionary at all, it just took things Pixar had been doing for years and made it an hour and a half long.  Why did it suceed?  The story was good, too.

 

If you're sick of "more boring 2d processes" when they're just coming into their own in the past two decades is like being sick of sound films after 1940.  "Okay, sound is boring, now what can we do?"  Let it mature before you consider it "boring."  There were hand-drawn animated movies for seventy years before anything close to a computer-animated movie was around, and you already expect the same drastic step away from computer-animated movies after less than twenty?  Really?

 

WALL-E actually made me forget I wasn't watching a live-action movie a few times, and *that* is something I consider revolutionary.  If that's not enough of an advance for you, fine, but these fantasies of "real advances" in 3D coming about anytime soon, and especially of anything coming of virtual reality in the next 20 years, are all ludicrous.

Now when you can strap me into something that will actually make me believe I'm having sex with Heather Graham, then we can talk.

 i agree totally that 3d is nowhere near where it should be, but like you said, you have to start somewhere, and sometime,

 

and it has started, like i said.........................have you ever seen demos in 3d? i know the recent 'journey to the center of the earth' wasn't supposed to be that

great, but maybe i'll check it out........................................and of course you know that all the toy story movies are going 3d, with the first and 2nd ones coming out,

and then toy story 3 in 3d................................

 

what makes you think cg movies aren't 'mature', like i said before, there's a glut of them, and since the basics are available to almost any studio,

what distinguishes them except budget, name acting stars, and maybe better effects....................................we need to keep pushing the limits..

pixar did it once, they can do it again.................................wall-e did not 'push' anything , visually, or storywise...................(at least to me)............

there was not 1 second of wall-e that did not feel artificial, look artificial , or processed (yes, even the digitized videos of live actors)....................

i don't think they were pushing for realism at all..................

 

anyways, there's no point in staying in the past, or we'd still be watching silent , black and white films....................unfortunately the steps

to get to the next next next level are , as you say, still light years away..........................................  but i've seen some pretty amazing

steps taken in the last 30 years...................................did you even think we get to the point where we are now, at this stage in time?

i hoping there WILL be some MAJOR breakthroughs coming.............................maybe somewhere there is hope and optimism about it....

 

so don't deny the future, embrace it....

later

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