Dragonball Z — Page 4

skyjedi2005 said:

Where in the manga is is stated that they are on earth, use guns like in that poster, or that goku is an alien?

Uhh... that's a joke, right?

skyjedi2005 said:

I am positive that I love the original works and they do not need to be distorted or ruined to make a fast buck.

 

Where in the manga is is stated that they are on earth, use guns like in that poster, or that goku is an alien?

Hollywood hucksters better keep their greedy mitts off my favorite anime. Even if they don't they will not get my money.

 

Speilberg should be kept like a zillion miles away from any g.i.t.s. project. He already ruined the anime transformers and he ruined Indiana Jones.

 

I would give the director of Akira a chance if the movie was set in neo tokyo and not new new york. This is almost as bad as disney making the yamato the frickin uss arizona.

 

Sadly the average american filmgoer is retarded and has add so hollywood has TO Make Subtanceless cgi pieces of crap. It is an awful lot like the assembly line producer derived bubblegum pop, pure crap.

 

I don't always hate cgi miyzaki has been able to use it effectively without making it souless, i would say the same about Pixar as well. The new evangelion film 1.0 you are not alone is an example where cgi is used effetively to augment the story. The japanese are real artists and craftsman when it comes to their work.

 

I would only like this dragonball movie is Toriyama san directed it, fuck hollywood.

 

If the evangelion live action ever gets made it hade better be Hideaki Anno and not Matt Greenfield directing. And especially not Peter Jackson.

Anno is a genius. I love Evangelion 1.0, it was amazing. I just bought this toy from the movie

And already bought this one.

They are absoulutely beautiful models and make me want to get the next movies toys.

I would totally more excited about the DBZ movie if I was 14. Also I hate that if they make a Evangelion movie they would fucking americanize everything.

Nanner Split said:

Anime doesn't translate into worthwhile entertainment at all. It blows. All of it.

That's what I think.

Maybe I'm just a major fanboy but it irritates me when people say things like that. The problem is your thinking of anime as a genre, when its really a medium that can (and does) tell any type of story. There isn't just one kind. So saying "all anime blows" is like saying all books blow, or all movies blow, or all black people blow.

I dunno, just something to think about.

....

On the topic of Dragonball Z, personally I have the exact opposite experience of most people here. When I was a kid I liked it just because it was anime and I liked anything anime. As I grew older though the whole DB saga (all-inclusive--I don't differentiate between DB, Z, and GT) started to take a special place in my heart.

And yes the shows ARE better in their original Japanese, especially GT.

I don't really like Anime if:

If a fight takes multiple episodes to complete

If the characters have long monolouges inside their heads

If the characters make stupid grunted sounds and battlecries

If there are like 20 main characters and tons of ridiculous plot twists

For example, I like Naruto for the first few episodes. As soon as it took him like an entire fricking season to pass some stupid test I stopped watching the show.

My experience with all anime has been like that so I don't bother to dig up obscure anime or anything like that.

Most action anime sucks nowdays and are made for kids (like Bleach and Naruto). What I've been watching lately is mostly comedy like Lucky Star, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Welcome to the NHK. I have seen one shitty anime lately, it was called Strike Witches. There was many people talking about it on 4chan and I downloaded the first episode, I think it was made for pedos. None of the girls wore pants.

Someone on an anime newsgroup I go to hated Strike Witches for that exact reason.  Personally I've never seen it and don't really want to.

I don't think the issue is that "anime today sucks," but rather the gears have shifted.  When I first got into anime, we tended to get OVAs (direct-to-video anime), movies, and only short-run TV series (like Louie the Rune Soldier--26 episodes), unless we got them edited up the wazoo like DBZ and Sailor Moon.

Nowadays, we're getting more of the hyper-long TV series, like Bleach (still getting new eps in Japan), Inu-Yasha (160+ episodes, currently ended but there's talks that the series might restart to account for the newer manga), the rest of Dragonball (531 episodes altogether), Yuyu Hakusho (108 eps), Yu-Gi-Oh (224 eps and still getting sequels), Pokemon (still getting new eps) etc.

Personally I like that stuff, but I can see how it gets boring, since its drawn out and often quite repetitive.  I tend to try and not get caught up in it, since I don't have the shelf space and would rather have hundreds of short-run shows instead of five long-running ones.  My taste in anime tends to skew more towards the short-run and direct-to-video stuff I mentioned earlier, which I recommend checking out.  Try some ofthese, all of which are available on DVD in R1:

-Iria:  Zeiram the Animation (six episodes)

-Slayers (24 episodes a season, of which there are only three.  Each season is self-contained, as are most of the episodes.)

-Gall Force: Eternal Story (single movie, though it did have sequels.  I haven't seen the sequels so I don't know if they're worth it)

-Macross (36 episodes)

-Genesis Climber Mospeada (25? episodes)

-Crying Freeman (I think it only had six episodes)

-3x3 Eyes (seven episodes)

-Doomed Megalopolis (four episodes).

...And I think I'm done recommending things for now.

JamesEightBitStar said:

Someone on an anime newsgroup I go to hated Strike Witches for that exact reason.  Personally I've never seen it and don't really want to.

When there is a chance to see something that a get to watch and discuss with people without having to watch a lot of episodes I will check it out. Also their was to much fanservice(do we really need sailor fuku, cat ears, and no pants?). But if the main character was older I'd watch more.

But watch Lucky Star it really is funny. There is a channel with all the episodes on Veoh.

What I like about some anime is that they are short. It doesn't overstay its welcome and you can put all the episodes in a nice box set that you can show off to your friends unless your a jaded misanthrope like me.

bkev said:

I hate it when people say they hate all anime.  I mean, anime comprises of different genres entirely.  There are ones that are simply comedy, or simply action.  I can understand hating a particular part of anime (note: overrated giant robot shows), but all of it as a whole?

You better not be talking about Evangelion. :p

bkev said:

I hate it when people say they hate all anime.  I mean, anime comprises of different genres entirely.  There are ones that are simply comedy, or simply action.  I can understand hating a particular part of anime (note: overrated giant robot shows), but all of it as a whole?

You better not be talking about Evangelion. :p

Style, medium, well whatever. The point is, as C3PX acknowledged, anime can encompass any number of stories and genres. There is no limit. I simply can't see saying you dislike all of it.

Even if someone hates everything, there is bound to be something that they like.

Like, for example, I tend to dislike comic books and normally avoid the medium, but there are still some I like.

JamesEightBitStar said:

Style, medium, well whatever. The point is, as C3PX acknowledged, anime can encompass any number of stories and genres. There is no limit. I simply can't see saying you dislike all of it.

Even if someone hates everything, there is bound to be something that they like.

Like, for example, I tend to dislike comic books and normally avoid the medium, but there are still some I like.

Nanner just thinks the stuff he sees on tv is anime. That and he is one of those 4chan types.

What's 4chan?

Seriously, I hear references to it all over the place--it seems like you can't bring up anime without someone mentioning it anymore--but the one time i went to it, it seemed to be just some lame forum.  What the heck is so special about it that "4chan types" even warrant a designation?

JamesEightBitStar said:

What's 4chan?

Seriously, I hear references to it all over the place--it seems like you can't bring up anime without someone mentioning it anymore--but the one time i went to it, it seemed to be just some lame forum.  What the heck is so special about it that "4chan types" even warrant a designation?

It's a silly, innocent, and stupid website where many popular memes on the internet are created. People who use it are idiots and retards.

C3PX said:

"Well, you don't like anime because you haven't seen this!"

 

No offense to your friends, but anytime I hear someone say "you don't like X because you haven't seen/read/whatevered this!" its a sign that I'm in for a world of pain.  People like that, simply put, are always into something stupid.

Suggestions suck (despite that I offered a few some posts ago).  The best option, if you're going to take any at all, is to find a rental that has anime, and look for something that sounds interesting.

That works for me a lot of times, though there are instances where you get shortchanged because the distributors give trumped-up box descriptions that are nothing like what the show is actually about.  Example:

Saint Seiya -- Boxes describe it as an angsty superhero show akin to Marvel Comics.  In reality its a very upbeat adventure series with a lot of asskicking.

Crying Freeman -- Box describes it as being about a brainwashed assassin who is on the run from the police as well as the Chinese gang that took his life away.  In Reality, it's actually more like an anime version of The Godfather with the occassional fight scene.

Ranma 1/2 -- Is constantly described as a "sex comedy."  The reality:  There is no sex.  There is some suggestive humor but that's about it.

However, misleading descriptions usually turn out to be for the better more often than not, since you often go in thinking "this is gonna be the suck" then its surprisingly good.

Or maybe its just me.

It's as I said before though:  Even someone who hates everything has something they like.

I have a friend who hates anime, but he loves Howl's Moving Castle.

(though, then again, Miyazaki anime tends to have a far more universal appeal than most).