adywan said:
Kurgan said:
As an addendum, to make this about Star Wars movies, so Ady doesn't put me on ignore ;) I'm going to say... please don't modify the lines in ROTJ about Leia and Luke's mother at all. Mess with Revenge of the Sith. Please no more toying with the Originals to "make them fit" with the Prequels. That's Lucas' fault, and it shouldn't be taken out on the original movies, no matter how many "ESB is better than ROTJ" fanboys there are out there. People agree that Hayden replacing Shaw was a travesty (and I say BRING THE DANGED EYEBROWS BACK! Put CG eyebrows on Hayden if you have to in ROTS, I don't care... but Shaw looks far worse without them)... don't add to it!
There, rant over. In four years, I hope people remember I said that!
I'll be changing ROTS to fit in with the RORJ conversation. i have a few ideas of how to do it , but thats a few years off yet. As for the eyebrows then i have to disagree there. i prefer them gone. After all he was badly burned and hair is one of the first things to be burned off. I hate it in movies when some one has been set on fire and their hair is still there. The funeral Scene in TPM annoys me. Qui-Gon is burning but his hair isn't touched. It just becomes totally unrealistic. Losing the eyebrows was one of the changes GL did that i actually agree with. But Hayden in ROTJ has to go.
Ziz said:
Adding some more explosion to cover the disappearing bridge would be the easiest fix. That's probably what ILM wanted to do at the time but it slipped past, because if you look close at the shot, it looks like they did the hold-out matte for the explosion element but didn't comp an actual explosion back in.
I'm gong to re-do the FX for that shot so we see the bridge damaged after the explosion. It may yet mean doing a completely different FX shot for that one.
Octorox said:
Also, I think Ady should make a ROTJ thread now so we can discuss these things ahead of time.
I don't think starting a ROTJ:R thread yet is a good idea. It will just distract me from ESB:R and i need to concentrate on one film at a time .
ImperialFighter said:
Adywan, at the transition 'wipe' (1:22:08 PAL 'timing') which changes from Luke's X-wing flying away from 'Dagobah' to a reveal of Bespin 'floating city' in white clouds, I miss the movement and roar of the orange twin-pod vehicle that came directly towards us in the original GOUT version. It was removed in the SE, and replaced with a 'floating gas refinery' instead. The 'floating gas refinery' is fair enough, but I'd sure like to see the movement of a twin-pod vehicle back here, which gave the original shot a bit more life. There are a few existing elements which could be used or 'flipped' for this (either coming at us or away from us), and it's just something else to consider come the time.
yeh, i miss the cloud car fly by too. The problem is that, now i am working in 1080p, using any footage from the GOUT is now out of the question. I was going to add the car back in but it will really stick out . But i never liked the addition of the gas mine as it stands now. it just looks so fake to me. I'm going to be doing new FX footage for that shot.
Sluggo, that AT-AT picture i've never seen before. It definitely looks like it was originally filmed for ESB. Those pics have actually given me a few ideas for the Hoth Battle now too.
Well the colour correction is taking a lot longer to do thanks to the 1080p res. So no updates for a while.
You'd be surprised at what motion stabilization and proper color matching of sources can acccomplish. I think using the GOUT PWNAGE avisynth script, upconverted to 1080 lines of resolution would look just fine. I'm just speaking from experience, watching test encodes mixing 480p non-anamorphic and 1080 high def images. Especially when it will just be the cloud car element, put through a stabilization script, I think you can pull it off easy. Then again, maybe an entirely new fx shot is necessary.