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The love scenes in AOTC

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Ah, who could forget the beloved love scenes in the PT. I can't decide whether I love them or hate them just because I don't know whether all the laughs I've had from them have been more entertaining to me than seeing actual good performances and dialog. I guess I'm going to have to say I like them better the way they are for all the laughs and jokes they have given me over the years.

Hayden Christensen, what did George ever see in this kid? Possibly the worst miscasting in cinema history! I think GL picked him just for his looks. I don't have anything personal against Hayden, but I just don't think he has the personality to be a good actor.

GL totally focused on the wrong things to show in a love story. He took the direction of a love story you'd think would be ideal if you were a first grader. He focused on the scenes like "the first kiss" and the exchanges of how beautiful they think they are. I thought we were going to see a little more subtlety in a galaxy far far away. I was expecting to see a love story that was more like what we saw with Robert De Nero and Amy Brenneman in Heat and this was back when I was 14 and I had very little knowledge on cinema at the time. GL likes to say that he made the PT the way he wanted the same reason why he would want to paint his house green even if everyone said it should be red. But if you ask me GL is nothing more than a typical man corrupted by money and and power. He developed an ego and thought he knows better than anyone else.


 

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and that's why he's rich, still making movies,

and you're here on a bulletin board making comments..

ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

george lucas rules!

i actually liked the PT, and the storyline , including all

these aspects of them..

 

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Yes you are so right he is so rich, that 20th century fox turned down that bad videogame cgi cutscene called clone wars and he had to get warners to release it.

After the shoddy prequels regardless of how much money they made any studio in their right mind would turn down any new star wars film or tv show.

It is just going to be crap, crap and more crap.

I am pretty close to saying goobye to star wars as a fan after what Lucas had done to it, nothing more than a cash cow.

 

How would have fans thought back in the day if you told them star wars would be bled dry just like paramount did to Gene Roddenberry's star trek. Lucas sees star wars as just another money making property he cares nothing for the universe and its characters as evidanced by his burying of the oot for all time.

 

Also he could not leave his ruination to star wars He also ruined THX 1138 and now he ruins Indiana Jones with a movie so bad it should return "to the space between the spaces"

 

Star wars original trilogy 1977-1983 R.I.P.

 

 

 

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Yes you are so right he is so rich, that 20th century fox turned down that bad videogame cgi cutscene called clone wars and he had to get warners to release it.

After the shoddy prequels regardless of how much money they made any studio in their right mind would turn down any new star wars film or tv show.

It is just going to be crap, crap and more crap.

I am pretty close to saying goobye to star wars as a fan after what Lucas had done to it, nothing more than a cash cow.

 

How would have fans thought back in the day if you told them star wars would be bled dry just like paramount did to Gene Roddenberry's star trek. Lucas sees star wars as just another money making property he cares nothing for the universe and its characters as evidanced by his burying of the oot for all time.

 

Also he could not leave his ruination to star wars He also ruined THX 1138 and now he ruins Indiana Jones with a movie so bad it should return "to the space between the spaces"

 

Star wars original trilogy 1977-1983 R.I.P.

 

 

 

 

I hope people like you do give up Star Wars for good. It's tiring having to read you haters talk about it over and over again. Oh and for the record, I'm perfectly fine with the love scenes as they are.

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look people,

don't take these comments too seriously,

its all just fun and games.....i don't mean to be insulting..although it looks like that....

it's just that when someone tries to apply serious reasoning to a topic, that really doesn't

need it, i get silly...........................and need to let out some steam....

everyone is entitled to their opinions yes..................but don't place the blame entirely on

one person...............................sure lucas is a control freak,

but there were a lot more people involved, and i don't see them getting castigated over it.

 

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sunday256 said:

 

I'm perfectly fine with the love scenes as they are.

 Love scenes, where?  I know Anakin kissed Padme, and they rolled around during their picnic, but I can't believe I missed Anakin doing the dirty deed on Padme!  Was the love scenes anything like Risky Business as Anakin is the younger inexperienced one like Tom Cruise, and Padme was the older, prostitute like Rebecca Demornay?  I wonder if Lucas has a deleted scene of Anakin singing, "Old Time Rock and Roll" in his underwear once he gets the Jedi Temple to himself......

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negative1 said:

 

but don't place the blame entirely on

one person...............................sure lucas is a control freak,

but there were a lot more people involved, and i don't see them getting castigated over it.

 

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Maybe that's because if they even tried to say no, Lucas pretty much overruled them.  He had all the money and all the control.  If you want to continue working on Star Wars, and who wouldn't at the time, you did what he said whether you thought it was a good idea or not.  Even McCallum tried to talk Lucas out of Jar Jar and that went nowhere.  He was the Producer.  Anyone else didn't stand a chance, so they all became "Yes Men".  Witness the contrast with the OT, where people had no problem telling Lucas no and that something wasn't going to work and how much better it turned out.

Lucas is a control freak that doesn't take no for an answer anymore.

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sunday256 said:

 

I'm perfectly fine with the love scenes as they are.

 Love scenes, where?  I know Anakin kissed Padme, and they rolled around during their picnic, but I can't believe I missed Anakin doing the dirty deed on Padme!  Was the love scenes anything like Risky Business as Anakin is the younger inexperienced one like Tom Cruise, and Padme was the older, prostitute like Rebecca Demornay?  I wonder if Lucas has a deleted scene of Anakin singing, "Old Time Rock and Roll" in his underwear once he gets the Jedi Temple to himself......

 

Love scenes..romantic scens..boy/girl discuss more than friend feelings kinda scene...oh hell you know what I'm talking about. geezus.

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Sunday256, I was just joking man.  I think we can enjoy a movie and still make fun of it every once in a while, it keeps things from getting too serious around here.

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CO said:

Sunday256, I was just joking man.  I think we can enjoy a movie and still make fun of it every once in a while, it keeps things from getting too serious around here.

 

I know you were joking, but you were also trying to antagonize me too. No worries.

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lordjedi said:

negative1 said:

 

but don't place the blame entirely on

one person...............................sure lucas is a control freak,

but there were a lot more people involved, and i don't see them getting castigated over it.

 

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Maybe that's because if they even tried to say no, Lucas pretty much overruled them.  He had all the money and all the control.  If you want to continue working on Star Wars, and who wouldn't at the time, you did what he said whether you thought it was a good idea or not.  Even McCallum tried to talk Lucas out of Jar Jar and that went nowhere.  He was the Producer.  Anyone else didn't stand a chance, so they all became "Yes Men".  Witness the contrast with the OT, where people had no problem telling Lucas no and that something wasn't going to work and how much better it turned out.

Lucas is a control freak that doesn't take no for an answer anymore.

 

i must humbly disagree,

i don't care who you work under, if you want to buckle under, fine, ITS STILL YOUR NAME IN THE CREDITS, SOME PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF WHAT THEY WORKED
on in the PT..........................................

 

besides, if you looked hard, i'm sure you can find some PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO WORK ON THE FILMS, what about them?????????

 

and your opinion about the OT being better? ok, if you think so...........................for me : star wars - excellent , empire strikes back - average, jedi - ok,

and for the prequel trilogy - phantom menace - ok, attack of the clones - average, and revenge of the sith - very very good.........................

 

so what difference was there, what caused it????????????????????  LUCAS WAS INVOLVED IN ALL OF THEM...

 

i can't see how you can possibly think 1 person is responsible for everything, its like saying Bill Gates is responsible for everything Microsoft does,

or Steven Jobs is responsible for everything Apple does..........................................no, if you're going to blame people, BLAME ALL OF THEM...

 

it really doesn't make sense to point a finger at one person..

 

here's some of the people involved in 'the phantom menace' to start complaining about:

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Production Companies

Distributors

Special Effects

Other Companies

Writing credits
George Lucas   (written by)

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete


Liam Neeson ... Qui-Gon Jinn

Ewan McGregor ... Obi-Wan Kenobi

Natalie Portman ... Queen Padmé Amidala
Jake Lloyd ... Anakin Skywalker
Pernilla August ... Shmi Skywalker

Frank Oz ... Yoda (voice)

Ian McDiarmid ... Senator Palpatine
Oliver Ford Davies ... Gov. Sio Bibble

Ray Park ... Darth Maul
Hugh Quarshie ... Capt. Panaka

Ahmed Best ... Jar Jar Binks (voice)
Anthony Daniels ... C-3PO
Kenny Baker ... R2-D2

Terence Stamp ... Supreme Chancellor Valorum
Brian Blessed ... Boss Nass (voice)
Andrew Secombe ... Watto
Lewis Macleod ... Sebulba (voice)

Steve Speirs ... Capt. Tarpals
Silas Carson ... Viceroy Nute Gunray / Ki-Adi-Mundi / Lott Dodd / Radiant VII Pilot

Ralph Brown ... Ric Olié
Celia Imrie ... Fighter Pilot Bravo 5

Benedict Taylor ... Fighter Pilot Bravo 2
Karol Cristina da Silva ... Rabé

Clarence Smith ... Fighter Pilot Bravo 3

Samuel L. Jackson ... Mace Windu

Dominic West ... Palace guard
Liz Wilson ... Eirtaé (as Friday 'Liz' Wilson)
Candice Orwell ... Yané

Sofia Coppola ... Saché

Keira Knightley ... Sabé
Bronagh Gallagher ... Radiant VII captain
John Fensom ... TC-14

Greg Proops ... Beed (voice)
Scott Capurro ... Fode (voice)
Margaret Towner ... Jira
Dhruv Chanchani ... Kitster
Oliver Walpole ... Seek
Katie Lucas ... Amee (as Jenna Green)
Megan Udall ... Melee

Hassani Shapi ... Eeth Koth
Gin Clarke ... Adi Gallia (as Gin)
Khan Bonfils ... Saesee Tiin
Michelle Taylor ... Yarael Poof
Michaela Cottrell ... Even Piell
Dipika O'Neill Joti ... Depa Billaba
Phil Eason ... Yaddle
Mark Coulier ... Aks Moe
Lindsay Duncan ... TC-14 (voice)

Peter Serafinowicz ... Darth Maul (voice)
James Taylor ... Rune Haako (voice)
Chris Sanders ... Daultay Dofine (voice)
Toby Longworth ... Sen. Lott Dodd / Gragra (voice)
Marc Silk ... Aks Moe (voice)
Amanda Lucas ... Tey How / Diva Funquita (voice) (as Tyger)
rest of cast listed alphabetically:

Amy Allen ... Twi'Lek Senatorial Aide (DVD deleted scenes) (uncredited)
Don Bies ... Pod race mechanic (uncredited)
Trisha Biggar ... Orn Free Taa's aide (uncredited)
Jerome Blake ... Rune Haako / Mas Amedda / Oppo Rancisis / Orn Free Taa (uncredited)
Michonne Bourriague ... Aurra Sing (uncredited)
Ben Burtt ... Naboo Courier (uncredited)
Doug Chiang ... Flag bearer (uncredited)
Rob Coleman ... Pod race spectator in Jabba's Private Box (uncredited)

Roman Coppola ... Senate guard (uncredited)
Russell Darling ... Naboo Royal Security Guard (uncredited)

Warwick Davis ... Wald / Pod race spectator / Mos Espa Citizen (uncredited)
C. Michael Easton ... Pod race spectator (uncredited)

Joss Gower ... Naboo fighter pilot (uncredited)

Raymond Griffiths ... GONK Droid (uncredited)
Nathan Hamill ... Pod race spectator / Naboo palace guard (uncredited)
Tim Harrington ... Extra (Naboo Security Guard) (uncredited)
Jack Haye ... Pod race spectator in Jabba's Private Box (uncredited)
Nifa Hindes ... Ann Gella (uncredited)
Nishan Hindes ... Tann Gella (uncredited)
John Knoll ... Lt. Rya Kirsch (Bravo 4) / Flag bearer (uncredited)
Kamay Lau ... Sei Taria - Senators Aide (uncredited)
Dan Madsen ... Kaadu handler (uncredited)
Iain McCaig ... Orn Free Taa's aide (uncredited)

Rick McCallum ... Naboo courier (uncredited)
Jeff Olson ... Pod race spectator in Jabba's Private Box (uncredited)
Lorne Peterson ... Mos Espa citizen (uncredited)

Alan Ruscoe ... Plo Koon / Bib Foruna / Daultay Dofine (uncredited)
Steve Sansweet ... Naboo courier (uncredited)
Mike Savva ... Naboo Royal Guard (uncredited)

Christian Simpson ... Bravo 6 (uncredited)
Paul Martin Smith ... Naboo courier (uncredited)
Scott Squires ... Naboo speeder driver (uncredited)
Tom Sylla ... Battle Droid (voice) (uncredited)
Bill Tlusty ... Chokk, Jabba's Bodyguard (uncredited)
Danny Wagner ... Mawhonic (uncredited)

Matthew Wood ... Bib Fortuna / Voice of Ody Mandrell (uncredited)

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and don't forget:

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yeah, i'm sure 1 person was responsible for this disaster.....yeah right..

 

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I really hope you cut and pasted them, and you didn't type everyone out, as they will go down as the longest posts in the history of message boards!

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We get the pont, negative1.  'S not all Lucas' fault. Or at least, I do.  Some people really need to learn that.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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negative1 said:

 

i must humbly disagree,



You just needlessly posted the entire credits for Phantom Menace over four posts. You're not humble. You're a dick.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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Negative1, no offense, but why would you buy a 35mm print of a film, then go to all the trouble and expense of transferring/restoring it, when you think it's merely "average"?

 

Do you really think The Empire Strikes Back is an average film?

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bkev said:

We get the pont, negative1.  'S not all Lucas' fault. Or at least, I do.  Some people really need to learn that.

 

i'm very tired of all the finger pointing at lucas.....

AT LEAST COMPLAIN about everyone else too...to be consistent...

i hate it when people are irrational..

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negative1 said:

 

i must humbly disagree,



You just needlessly posted the entire credits for Phantom Menace over four posts. You're not humble. You're a dick.

 

actually, i screwed up....i started out with the phantom menace, but continued with attack of the clones..

yeah, i was trying too hard to prove a point...i deleted them now......

but is it any more egregious than constantly harping on Lucas?

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Mielr said:

Negative1, no offense, but why would you buy a 35mm print of a film, then go to all the trouble and expense of transferring/restoring it, when you think it's merely "average"?

 

Do you really think The Empire Strikes Back is an average film?

 

well, to me it was 'average' for the series, it didn't really grip me the like the 1st and episode 3 did...

also, remember , i only saw it one time in the theater, and once more for the SE version, and i've

watched the orignal OT version on laserdisc about 5 times in the last decade or so............so i shouldn't

really be the one to come to COMPLETE opinion of how good/bad it is.....

 

TRUST me, if i had prepared myself properly, we would be here talking about the 16mm version of STAR WARS,

i'm still kicking myself over that one....................i pray that some day, i find another copy, or a 35mm version of that...

basically, the ESB print is insurance, so that we will/might have a bargaining chip someday that could come in handy

to procure that..................but as it turned out, we practically stole this copy, since the 16mm print went for twice

as much as i paid....

 

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negative1 said:

yeah, i was trying too hard to prove a point...i deleted them now......

but is it any more egregious than constantly harping on Lucas?


I would have condensed the names into a list that used commas and not force everyone to scroll down a browser mile.

Otherwise, it depends. Lucas does deserve criticism, but some of us go to far.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005