Covenant said:
JohnGreenArt said:
If he's watched the prequels then none of the big surprises will be surprises in ESB, so I'm not sure the movie will have the same impact it did on those who saw the originals when they first came out. If you've seen Episodes I-III, you've pretty much been spoiled for ESB.
But it is still a great movie!
I totally disagree...
What made Empire such an amazing movie was the direction, the less hokey script, and the sheer emotional atmosphere of it.
The Skywalker/Vader *reveal* was pretty much leaked before the film ever saw the light of day.
What made Empire such a success was exactly what made the prequels such disasters... Empire treated it's audience like they had intelligence and a modicum of taste and understanding. It's become a little cliche recently, but Empire's success was in it's darkness. Life doesn't always work out like you want it to...
;' )
In what way were you disagreeing with my post? I stated the surprises in ESB won't be surprises for someone who's seen the prequels, then said it's still a great movie (implying it's *not* just the surprises that makes it a great film.)
Regardless of how wonderful the film is, it's impossible to put the "Vader's your father, Leia's your sister, and Yoda's the little green man" cats back in their respective bags. Unless you haven't seen the prequels or have been living in a cave for the past 25 years. I saw the movies when they were originally in theaters, so those things were surprises to me. Things didn't get leaked on the World Wide Web back then. Sure, if you worked for Kenner or were a buyer for Toys R Us you knew who Yoda was because that was the label on the action figure that was in production. But if David Prowse thought the dialog they were going to have James Earl Jones dub over him was "Obi-Wan killed your father" and he didn't hear the real line until opening night, I think they kept that a pretty good secret, from most people anyway.
I've known people who can't enjoy a movie, no matter how good it is, if they already know what's going to happen (these are the same sort of people that won't watch a movie or read a book more than once. They have this "been there, done that" attitude about it). That's an extreme, of course, and I'm not implying the original poster is one of those kinds of people, but I know today's audiences can be obssessed with trailers that reveal too much or hearing spoilers, like not wanting to know what happens in the new Dark Knight movie because they don't want any surprises ruined (can anyone imagine what the ESB trailer would've been like if it had the "No... I am your father" bit in it?).
I'm not saying knowing spoilers in advance makes ESB a bad movie, not at all, just that it's a different viewing experience for any audience when before the movie even starts they already know something about the characters when they're not *supposed* to know about it until it's revealed within the film itself, as the filmmakers originally intended.
And did you just insinuate ANH is "hokey"?! :P
