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Love the new gun on the MF. I did always think it never looked right.

Since screen shots are more fun, thought I would give a visual for some suggestions.

We see Boba Fett's Range Finder in the down position. At the bottom of the Range finder is a display lens that clearly has no display. Could we see something there that he may be looking at for the reason the range finder would be down?

Boba Fetts Range Finder

In this shot Fett's Chest lights are not really moving, which we see that they do move in the Carbon Chamber scene

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Fett's Knee armor is upside down

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The display lens (mentioned in first photo) on Fett's Range Finder is missing in this shot. Must have broken off.  Also his lights again don't seem to be too visible

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How can you tell that the lens - if it's even there - is missing in the other shot?  Maybe it's not even there in the first shot, maybe it's just a weird lighting reflection from off-camera.  If it is actually a lens part on there, maybe it's designed recessed so that you can't see it from the other angle in the second shot.

Find a third shot that proves or dis-proves the existence of the lens one way or the other...that will decide which shot needs to be changed.

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2614347986_5ae1554609_b.jpg

shouldnt there be buildings in the background? its not like the camera position is too low?

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lawmcd said:

Hi Ady,

First time poster on Original Trilogy altho i've been lurking for a good couple of years. Loved the ANH-R and loving all the ideas being thrown around for ESB.

Anyway, i know there might be more activity via pm but I hadn't see an update from Ady regarding his monitor. I may be able to help out as I have access to discounts for a couple of the major manufacturers.

Also, depending on where you are in the UK i could give you my old LCD as I bought a new one in february if yo uare sturgling with your old 15" :)

If you're interested feel free to pm me.

 

thanks for the offer. i have seen the monitor that's perfect for what i need but i'm still a way off affording it yet. I went around all the electrical & computer stores and tested all their monitors and the best one i found was the 22" Gateway one at staples. I was actually disappointed on just how bad the colour system was on the higher priced ones. They all suffered with horrible colour banding and their viewing angles were no where near what the specs suggested. if you moved slightly from the centre of the screen the colours changed, whxixh as you can understand is no good for me. I was totally shocked just how good the Gateway one was, and for a lot less money than the rest (had to have DVI input & all others, even some that were £50 more, had VGA input only. If anyone is looking for a new 22" widescreen monitor for less than £200 then get the Gateway one. You can even rotate the screen and it automatically rotates the desktop with it, so you don't have to manually rotate it in windows. On top of that it has SVHS, Component, Composite DVI & VGA inputs with Picture in Picture function. I can't wait to get my hands on this baby. Luckily the guy at my local Staples has put one on one side for me because they are almost out of stock at the sale price (usual price was £250). And it has a 3 year guarantee

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What's the model number?  It might be something that's only available over there.

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adywan said:

My thought on the whole stardestroyer placement issue is that all the stardestroyers have all just returned from deploying the probe droids around the various systems and are now regrouping with the Executor, so they would be facing all directions and not uniform in placement

Just what I've always thought. The SSD is like a homebase and the rest are just coming and going, meaning they'd be facing in different directions. :)

Oh, and Ady, I would love to contribute towards the monitor and whatever else. My job future is a little fuzzy at the moment, but I'll try when things are clearer! I certainly would have done so towards the HDD a while back had I known at the time.

And DarthBo, thanks for the space slug. I was away all day and didn't get to respond. :)

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adywan said:

£250

never realised ady was from the UK!:)

 

 

heres a slightly (very) crude attempt at what the boba fett scene may appear like with buildings in the background

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and heres something else

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The one shot of the imperial fleet is fine if the ships all face different directions, but the one ship sliding along the arrow needs correction pretty badly. If Adywan only did that, the shot would still be much improved.

Here's a couple more ideas I had for your consideration:

Falcon full size detail corrective matte: The Falcon full size prop was shot from a few angles that the set dressers didn't anticipate. Sometimes the detail level doesn't hold up.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6640/falconmattexa7.th.jpg

Hoth Walker idea: This is really more of a general idea rather than just the one shot. Since the Hoth battle is going to be bigger and more intense, how about using a few prequel walkers?

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I forgot one

Vader Hologram - Poor quality, especially bad around edges. I don't know if this screengrab does justice to how bad this one looks on screen in motion.

The element is simply Vader standing, then putting his hands on his hips. You could paint the whole thing out and it shouldn't be too hard to find a simliar shot to convert to a hologram.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5315/hologramqu4.th.jpg

Riplin: The prequels had some bad acting, good design. The clone war sequence was the whole reason to watch AOTC. Adywan has already tied ANH more dirrectly into ROTS, so I'm just acting on that.

I'm just throwing out ideas. They're all just brainstorms. If Adywan uses one I can point at the screen and go "OOoooo!!!! OOoooo! Mine!!!"

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I'm going to have to vote "NO" on prequel-era walkers as well.  Stick to AT-ATs and AT-STs.

In fact, I'd suggest NOT adding any more AT-ATs, but adding in more AT-STs - there's only one in the current edition, I believe!

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Yeah, I wouldn't mind the number of AT-ATs staying the same. Kinda shows their arrogance, like "as if they'd beat these indestructible machines. Let's just send a few down and get this over with." But adding in another AT-ST here and there could be neat.

And to Shadow, I completely agree about the design element of the PT. It's my favorite part of it, in fact. I don't like it all, but I do like the fact that with each succesive movie, the machines and troopers got closer in design to the OT ones. That's something I looked forward to going into Episode III. And I have a feeling you will definitely see some of your suggestions put into the film.

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I doubt Adywan will do it — in part because it would probably be more difficult — but I have to say I like the idea of including different walkers. That said, AOTC is about 25 years before the Battle of Hoth, so it's unlikely the same designs would be in use.

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Ya, Go to Wookipedia.com and look up the Battle of Hoth, No need For More ATATs but yay fot AT-STs.

Now I am for those prequel stuff way in the background, they have imperial ones LOOK AT WOOKIPEDIA.COM

So just a little extra, also the little speeders that the Rebels have, not the snow ones, can they go a little higher. Never mind continue Ady with your work, Just BeCarefull, If it an't broke, Fix it alittle!

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Really like the prequel walker idea, but I'm sure Ady probably won't. 

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YEA!!!!! I can post again!!! It's been days.

 

My two cents on more walkers is what I said earlier about seeing more of the Imperials around Cloud City. MORE!!!!! More More More! The Empire is the ruling military of the ENTIRE galaxy. They bring the Death Star to handle therebel base before and this time they bring what????..... a few walkers that only shoot in one direction and go slower than my grandmother on a Sunday drive???? I think not. Remember people, this isn't just a preservation effort here. This is to give it a little more bang for our buck. Look at what was done in ANH:R to the Death Star battle. That was amped up to the Nth degree and we all wet ourselves like little preschoolers when we first saw it.

Oh, speaking of the walkers Ady, please for the love of all that is holy, make lasers come out of the walkers from all around it. Think of how stupid the strategy is to fly directly at the walkers from the front, if that is where their only weapons are. I've seen the folly in this strategy since I was 8 years old. Its just plain dumb. Plus, those guns shoot so damn slow that it would be nearly impossible to actually hit a speeder going at those speeds. The whole scene has wonderfully intense and exciting music but where is the excitement on screen? "That armor's too strong for blasters." "Wow Luke, really? Luckily there are tow cables on board because otherwise these walkers are the most unstoppable things around....... unless we sneak up behind them and 'cow tip' them". Admit it.... you've thought it sounded like a cow being tipped too when it fell over.

Its all good to point out things that even us rabid diehard fans who've seen the film probably hundreds of times have missed, but if the glaringly obvious things aren't addressed then don't we run the risk of doing just another special edition? We all know that tons of things were fixed and enhanced in 1997 and 2004 but we never had the film perfected. Little and big things alike were messed up or neglected. I've noticed dozens of things in these films that need fixing but I never mentioned them because I keep dwelling on things like the Hoth battle and whatnot. There were little bitty things that weren't fixed in ANH:R that still knaw at me a bit but EVERYTHING that really really really bugged me were fixed and that's saying a lot considering how nitpicky I am.

Keep your eye on the ball people. I couldn't care less what the EU says about Han Solo's pants. What about Chewy??? The wookie has no pants!!! (No offense to whoever posted that)

 

 

Oh, and here's my little nitpicky thing of the day. Peace fellow geeks.

 

Here you can see 4 things: Goggles in different position, scarf in different position, bloodier face, blood on the snow

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Here, the window is too high up and to the left in the matte painting. Sorry its so dark.

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I kinda agree with Darth Stewie...

 

Think of the Emotional High that we ended STAR WARS with...

 

To then, in the next film, be pushed into utter despair in the first 30 minutes I think would be an amazing thing... it would darken the film...

 

Maybe if, like he mentions, have laser bolts just firing everywhere... almost like in the battle of Geonosis....

 

And maybe if you could find a way to incorporate AT-ST's, it would be BRILLIANT to somehow show the sheer speed of THOSE compared to the AT-AT's... yes you have a few AT-AT's... but if you had a bunch plundering about, constantly firing...a nd AT-ST's walking around, firing a metric ton...

 

Even perhaps speeding UP the walkers ever so slightly... if you could speed up the movement, and slow down the step... FAAAST boom (slow)... faaaast (boom) slow.. It could give a bit more dynamic.

 

I think THAT'S what the scene could use is dynmaic.

 

I'd mentioned before that the Rebels have thos ebig guns and turrets but you barely see them fire... perhaps seeing more of that..

 


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Actually, I looked better and his face is just as bloody in both shots but its a slightly different angle of his face so scratch that one.

 

HELP..... I need a little help. I just bought Adobe Premiere Pro this week and I can't get any video to load properly except the .wmv files that goodmuscian posted. I'd like to put together a couple of clips to share but I can't figure out how to rip my DVD (already decrypted and reburned) into a file that Premiere Pro will recognize. Its killing me because I'm dying to edit a few things and can't. Ironically, I'm majoring in video editing in school but I've never taken an editing class yet (gggrrrrrr) and we're on break so I have no one to ask. I know there are a few blessed souls that would help a brother on here. Any help here would be hot....

 

EDIT: Okay, I've finally figured out that I have to convert to AVI type 2 and then it took forever to find a converter that didn't have problems (we're talking like 3 days here people). But first, I need to know how to get it off my disk, onto my harddrive so I can then put it through the converter.

 

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To add to GoodMuscian and my post.....  isn't dack a gunner?  Well dammit... let's see him gun it a little.  I mean granted, he had no approach vector and he wasn't set (whatever the hell that shit means) but maybe just a few pop shots.  Apparently Janson's was all set, so let's see him blasting the hell out of some AT-ST's.  Just because, well, you know Ady, because you are a wizard and can pull all this shit out of your arse.

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Love the new gun on the MF. I did always think it never looked right.

Since screen shots are more fun, thought I would give a visual for some suggestions.

We see Boba Fett's Range Finder in the down position. At the bottom of the Range finder is a display lens that clearly has no display. Could we see something there that he may be looking at for the reason the range finder would be down?

Boba Fetts Range Finder

In this shot Fett's Chest lights are not really moving, which we see that they do move in the Carbon Chamber scene

 

Could use some prequel elements of the cockpit graphics, changing then enough to suit this scene. Looks like there is some "blue screen spill" that could be corrected too.

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and a little boys voice echo saying "Fire dad! heh heh!"


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I think the cloud city vane shot is a matter of perspective (windows) of where u are viewing it, it looks fine on the DVD to me. On a side note, some people say this entire vane is too small to house the carbonite freezing chamber at the top but if you get the DK Star Wars COMPLETE LOCATIONS book, you will see it fits nicely. Now if someone could just post those stills of the gray tape that turns into black char marks in the next shot on the vane thing vader cuts in half before he cuts off Luke's hand.

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Okay, here's a few more........  God I've got to go to sleep.

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ChainsawAsh said:

I'm going to have to vote "NO" on prequel-era walkers as well. Stick to AT-ATs and AT-STs.

In fact, I'd suggest NOT adding any more AT-ATs, but adding in more AT-STs - there's only one in the current edition, I believe!

 

Yeah, definately no prequel vehicles (there really doesn't need to be any more prequel "reminders" in the next two movies... please don't turn into GL Jr.!)... and I agree, no more AT-AT's. As is, this shows the Empire's power and the desperation of the Rebels... a few badass walkers can do ALL THIS, and it takes all the work of the heroes to just bring a couple of them down... and they still lose. And the "red eyes" don't need to turn into a solid red interior cockpit (I'd hate to see Red tinted troops inside, frankly). Just call it a tinted windscreen if you want, an optical illusion. After all, they need something to keep the glare off, but who says that inside they need to be like in a submarine's emergency lights?

 

Much as all us fanboys want to see 2 1/2 hours of vehicles and ships smashing into each other like when we were kids playing with toys... it's just overkill. We already see full scale battles in the Prequels. "Faster, more intense" doesn't mean the movie is going to be better each time. For the Yavin battle, it made sense since that was the climax of the film and the Rebel's most desperate "do or die" scene.


But the "Battle of Hoth" isn't supposed to be a full scale war, like Geonosis, anyway... it's just supposed to be a distraction put on by the Rebels against a ground assault while the Transports (the majority of the Rebel Force) escape. It's a diversion!

 

I wouldn't mind seeing more AT-STs, yeah... blink and you miss 'em. But then ROTJ gives us plenty of great AT-ST action, so this is a glimpse of things to come.

 

As for the Vader Hologram, I figured it was because battle holograms are going to be smaller and lower quality than the fancy ones Vader has to talk to the Emperor. But then if it's lower quality than R2D2's, maybe that's an issue. But every hologram doesn't need to be perfect. In fact part of the charm of them is that they're crappy looking (after all, we don't have holograms like that in our world, but we have much better image quality... these look like early television or video tape, projected in the air). It's the whole "futuristic but it's a used universe" look that I love about the series where things are dirty, worn, crude, or don't quite work perfectly (which Prequels threw out in favor of a more shiny, rounded-edge, utopian perfection). So yeah, fix it, but don't fix it "too much" if that makes any sense.

 

Someone mentioned Vader's armor not being damaged by Luke's strike earlier. Now it sounds like I'm a minimalist here (I guess in some sense I am... I figure changes shouldn't be made "just because we can" but because they're needed), but I think it enhances the threat of Vader when his armor isn't even cut by Luke's attack. Yeah, it heats his metal for a split second which makes him yell in pain (and pissed because Luke finally got through his defense), but it doesn't slow him down or damage his arm.

 

Adywan: Are you going to restore the old engine noise to the Slave-I from 1980/1997 or are you planning to keep the "motor-boat" sound that was dubbed in in 2004?

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With regards to colouring the inside of the AT-AT cockpit red, perhaps it would be better if only the inside of the window was slightly coloured red? That is, whenever we see the viewpoint of the AT-AT drivers looking out onto the battle field, if that window was MINIMALLY tinted red, and so  the view of the battle here would be red tinted, it could do the job. And I'm all for more AT-AT and AT-ST walkers, and a more busier battle, here, ala the Yavin Battle in ANH:R, and agree with the re-doing of Vader's hologram. But technology would have advanced so much in the Star Wars universe since the prequels that seeing prequel walkers on Hoth may not be coherent.

Also, I'm not really sure how the 'ESB:R Suggestion Terminal' thread started by GoodMusician works, but I perused the list and find I have two suggestions that aren't on there. Am I right in saying that I post those suggestions here, in this thread? If so, they are:

1.) Fix motion of Luke's X-Wing landing on Dagobah (when Yoda force levitates out of the swamp and onto dry land; motion when coming down and Luke pats it with hand seems too awkward/fakey)

2.) Update displays in Rebel Hoth Base ala Yavin Base in ANH:R (with some digital text/annotations, and flashing graphics)

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