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I just finished watching Building Empire and there were a LOT of examples of alternate audio from the Super 8mm version.  Don't remember off hand how many of them originated from the first theatrical release, but it might be interesting to investigate them further for the sound mix.

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One more nitpicky suggestion. This shot has visible wires that the models slid along. Aside from the pyro it's a very static shot and could use a little extra something.

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Shadowman99 said:

A few suggestions:

Blood stripe - This would impact many shots, and many of them are blurry shots of Han running, so this could be very difficult to do convincingly.

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Errr....What's wrong with the yellow srtipe? I'm sure Mr Solo has more than one pair of trousers!

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Yes, but the blood stripe has a fan backstory that ties into the Han Solo novels from way back. It's sort of a Corelian medal of valor.

I'm sure the costume designer just thought yellow contrasts better against brown, but the stripe has been a sore point for many people.

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is it red in the other films? and in the whole film excepting certain scenes?


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It's red in ANH. Yellow in Empire. In ROTJ he wears these clothes when he's on Tatooine, and for the rest of the film he pretty much wears the same thing he did in ANH.

In Empire Han has two costumes, the Hoth protective gear and his "Bespin" clothes. Only the one set of pants has the yellow stripe.

I rather doubt pouring tons of hours into changing a yellow stripe to red is high on Adywan's list, but it the interest of putting the idea out there, well... there it is.

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well, he changed the color of the insignias on the rebels helmets in ANH...

I added it to the list either way ;-)


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Shadowman99 said:

Yes, but the blood stripe has a fan backstory that ties into the Han Solo novels from way back. It's sort of a Corelian medal of valor.

I'm sure the costume designer just thought yellow contrasts better against brown, but the stripe has been a sore point for many people.

 

Sorry, I don't get the problem here..... Fan backstory....Well, bloody hell....might as well change then stripes Ady man.

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It's red in ANH. Yellow in Empire. In ROTJ he wears these clothes when he's on Tatooine, and for the rest of the film he pretty much wears the same thing he did in ANH.

 

 

Well, only his waistcoat is the same really.

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GoodMusician said:

What I've learned through studying film music is that there are maybe 3 ways of going about composing the music.

 

2) To create a sort of "looney tunes" version. What I mean by that is in Looney Tunes, when someone hits someone over the head or falls off a cliff, the music notates this. Jerry Goldsmith was VERY much prolific in this sense (He even did the Looney Tunes Films lol). Cuts in the film are hightened by a change in music or a change in pace... explosions are notated with cymbol crashes...etc.

 

There's an actual term for that style of scoring. Funny enough, it's called "Mickey Mousing". Very close example with the Looney Tunes. :)

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I'm sure there was some sort of official explanation for the red and yellow stripes on Han's trousers...something to do with the class of bloodstripe and the level of honour or similar. Red was supposed to indicate a high level of honour and yellow was a different class (I think!). However, I wouldn't have thought a fan backstory would be taken as canon unless it was indicated as such by GL...

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I don't think that's what his main potin is or maybe I'm misunderstanding.

 

He's wearing pretty much the same outfit in all the films... and exclusind here, the stripe is red...

 

As for "mickey mousing," I've never studied composition, this is simlpy though my own studies... I kinda perfer Looney Tunes than Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse cartoons didn't use music, especially classical and jazz pieces like those by Williams fathers conductor, Raymond Scott, like Looney Tunes did heh....

 


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Anyhooo, back on subject...Yeah...Snow...Wooki........

 

Only joking....I may have exhausted that one already. Roll on Jedi, then we can get back to the sand on the foot issue...That one has always bugged me.

 

Sorry if I'm nit-picking, I'm so tired....My son thinks it's great at getting up at 4.45 AM in the bloody morning.

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HotRod said:

Anyhooo, back on subject...Yeah...Snow...Wooki........

 

Only joking....I may have exhausted that one already. Roll on Jedi, then we can get back to the sand on the foot issue...That one has always bugged me.

 

Sorry if I'm nit-picking, I'm so tired....My son thinks it's great at getting up at 4.45 AM in the bloody morning.

 Actually, isn't there a leaf or a twig in the foot in Jedi...? :p

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This came to me last night.  I think the asteroid field should be visable before our heros reach it since currently it kind of comes out of nowhere.  Maybe it could even be added to the background of some of the orbital Hoth shots as well.  General Rieekan said that there's a lot of meteor activity in the system, so maybe it could be visable, kind of like a reference point to show which direction people are flying, Han towards it, Luke away from it.

I also think it'd be cool to see other meteorites entering the atmosphere, but that may be too distracting as the only one we see is a probe droid, and those unfamiliar may believe they are just dozens of probes landing.

Anyway, that's what I came up with.

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Oh, and the Corellian Bloodstripes came from the original "Han Solo Adventures" book trilogy published before ESB.  I've never really put much stock in them, so his different stripes never bothered me.  Adding prequel elements to Revisited is one thing, adding EU stuff from books before there was more than one movie is something else.  I'm sure later EU books explained it away anyway (just like all of the stories of young Boba Fett in the EU all of a sudden became Jango's history, and people just got confused).

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astromech said:

I'm sure there was some sort of official explanation for the red and yellow stripes on Han's trousers...something to do with the class of bloodstripe and the level of honour or similar. Red was supposed to indicate a high level of honour and yellow was a different class (I think!). However, I wouldn't have thought a fan backstory would be taken as canon unless it was indicated as such by GL...

yeh, there is one thing i stated when i was doing ANH:R and that is that if it isn either in or at least referenced in the movies then , as far as i'm concerned, it doesn't exist. I won't even listen to GL's explanations of things he has said pre- SE.

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Well, I'm using a totally different computer and Operating System at the moment, so I guess it was something on my end that was messed up (or else the forums just now decided to cooperate).

 

I'm overjoyed that the TIEs are going to be blue in ESBR/ROTJR... having all colorless Imperial vehicles would just be so boring and bland.

Thanks for seeing the wisdom in that. Now the question is just HOW BLUE they will be. I figure if they are as blue as they were in theaters in '80/'83 that's good enough for me.

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Kurgan said:

I can post again! Yes!

Well, I'm using a totally different computer and Operating System at the moment, so I guess it was something on my end that was messed up (or else the forums just now decided to cooperate).

 

I'm overjoyed that the TIEs are going to be blue in ESBR/ROTJR... having all colorless Imperial vehicles would just be so boring and bland.

Thanks for seeing the wisdom in that. Now the question is just HOW BLUE they will be. I figure if they are as blue as they were in theaters in '80/'83 that's good enough for me.

no they won't be the oversaturated blue they were in many shots. there are so many colour inconsistencies with their colour that i'm referencing the model colour, which many of the shots are originally that exact colour. I think that ILM boosted the colours just so they could show off that they can do Blue coloured ships against a blue screen but over did it. but they forgot to boost the colour is so many shots they range from navy blue, to the proper blue/grey to full blown grey. Same thing happens in ROTJ, but not as bad. Don't forget i'm not recreating the OUT or the exact colouring, because its impossible to do that with the 2004 or HD sources. This is my take on the movie and i am having to reference many on set photos & publicity and model shots to restore the colour because the colour isn't correct in the GOUT (although its closer to the original it does have a red tint to it which throws some colouring off a bit)

I'm surprised no one mentioned one of the fixes from the last clip i posted. lol

I fixed this the best way i could (at the moment). the gun shouldn't even be facing that way but at least it hasn't got just the one strut anymore

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Well, you could always take the "bluer" examples and standardize the color based on those, but whatever. As long as they're not gray or green or some other color.

 

The scene I like the best is the one where you see the long shot of the horizontal Executor and the blue TIEs flying past the screen on both sides.

 

I thought of another scene I had a problem with. I know you said the fixes were "temp" at this point but the one where you see the cave entrance and you added a few more Rebel soldiers next to that laser turret... I thought the guy standing there facing the camera to the right of the turret looked rather static. Isn't that the same exact pose he has later in the movie during the battle? I like the other guys, but maybe not the guy standing there.

 

Ady, here's an update from stardestroyer.net's forum:

"Galvatron" said:

When the cannon is oriented forward, it's actually facing downward from the POV of the gunner. So the "fork" that swivels it up and down is actually horizontal, not vertical.

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Adywan actually tried to register here to respond to this thread, but the board software recognized his email as a "free account" (even though it wasn't, he says).

A friend of mine had the same problem a while back, but was able to register when I told Mike. [Mike Wong aka "Darth Wong", the webmaster of SD.net]

 

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I wonder if they added the blue to kinda make the film seem colder... because DAMN ...that's a lot of blue..

 

I mean, sort of how Minority Report uses filters... to make the audience feel something that's not neccessarily the case... but this was all done after the fact...


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adywan said:

ok i managed to redo the gun and this is the closest i'm going to get it to match the model

 

Looking good!

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