GoodMusician said:
The original cue is too loud and distracting... lol
Distracting from what? Watching a little pod fly through space... this isn't dialogue! lol
You have to realize that Empire Strikes Back is the OPPOSITE of a normal film. The characters end up in a worse place then they began.
The music, as such, does the opposite as well... the big battle is in the beginning of the film, with the "big" internal battle at the end... to kinda balance it out...
But its really like a normal film backwards... this would explain why williams wrote sooo much music for the opening of the film... becuase normally only the end has a lot of music...
Notice too that at the end of the film, not a lot of music is used (the battle between Luke and Vader for example)
But yea... I can see why people want the other... but at the same time, I worked very hard to try to fix the film version of "Probe Droid" but the release is flawed. The horns are flipped and the mixing is all wrong.
Unless hes ok with that or don't plan to change the sync of the music... then I suggest trying the original unused one.
Dear Good Musician
1.You made a great and probably completely correct edit of that composed music with the picture on your last video post here. Congratulations for that, you are a true fan of this films.
2. As "good musician", you probably know that silence is one of the most important things in music... espetially in movies.
3. We can not know WHY EXACTLY so many music exists for that opening of Empire. You think it's deliberately to show "the reverse movie", I think it's a normal scoring process, somebody else thinks something else. The only way to find that one out would be to ask John Williams himself
4. Although the music goes well along with scenes in your edit as it allways does with Williams, I think IMO IMO :-) :
a) "probe droid apperance"- music in your cut sounds more to be intended for "Luke on Tauntaun's apperance riding in snow" which probably was 1.st intenton of an editor without probe falling down to Hoth twice but once
b) your replacement of the echo-station fanfare with continuation of previous music unfortunately (musically) suggests that rebel base is very near poor Luke wich lessses the tension. Fanfare made of hornes and trombones sounded strong and safe as a contrast to Luke's position. I would like to keep them where they are for a strong contrast's sake
c) I understand the argument of "reversity of a classic screenplay-movie- structure", but it's originally done in some quiet way and not as the main thing. This issues usually come along after seeing a movie a 1000th time when one gives more attention to the structure then to what's going on in the movie. For the sake of the latter, I think Lucas was right removing the music in places. Hoth sequences are even colder that way, Luke is really lonely that way, the movie really "starts" and dont suddenly "lasts"(as in your cut) that way, Han is really lost that way, strong icy wind doesn't disturb music that way (or vice versa - that sounds really weird in your cut athough not so intended when composed), the duell in Bespin is scarier that way, and the whole opening of a movie doesn't sound like a cheap scored 30's movie. I wold like it to remain that way but with completely remastered score getting more spectrum and brightness in sound, like ROTJ.
d) A genius composer like Williams can compose anything for everything - it'll always sound great. BUT there are another people working on the movie too , and they have their arguments too, it's a team work (maybe I should not write such stuff here but sometimes one seems to forget that) as this here is too.
f) I would suggest Ady to let you underscore the whole silent version of this movie with him because it would be great to recover the whole score for that occasion like he did on a DVD-9 of ANH-R. That would be really great thing!!!!!!!!!!!
Greets from another musician