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@GoodMusician: Thank you very much for that new topic thread!

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After Adywan gives the head up that he has done most of that color stuff, I will give my list ( my short list) I like the movie not to be changed to much.

props to you Ady, and sorry about your screen, I would donate but sadly im only ... CLASSIFIED...

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You know, I never noticed the 4% PAL audio pitch speedup until I heard "Commander Skywalker, do you copy?" Jesus Christ was that hard to listen to ...

But the color collection looks fucking amazing. Kudos to you, Adywan ... kudos to you!
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lol... yea... it's around 4... I'd probably say more like 4.29% just becuase you can't quite get the pitch back when you try to convert it... you have to go a little over 4% or its still wrong...

It's why I don't think I could ever watch a movie in PAL... the music is recorded at a certain pitch and it should remain there! :-p


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Ady,

In regards to the problem with the blown-out elevator background - you said you needed a source that wasn't cropped to replace it.

Is there ANY way to use the source from the 1997 SE Laserdisc set?

I have a boxset version I would be happy to donate to the project - The only issue is I'm in the U.S., so mine is NTSC...

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Alright Ady, You asked for some options as far as a way to replace the fanfare. Here are three:

Option 1: What was originally intended. I only went through to the middle of "Visions of Obi-Wan.," cutting right after the Shilders are closed to Echo Base.I did some minor looping edits (hard to tell really) just to accommodate the extra footage because I don't really know how you're going to edit the sequence so I simply put it in there so you can hear it. This is what Williams wrote...what was originally intended... and what never came to pass:

Edit 1

Option 2: This is my favourite after the first. What I did was I took the end of the "Wampa Ice Lair" cue and moved it forward instead of being the dissolve from Han looking for Luke to the hangar as they discuss that the doors must be closed as seen in the first video. I think it has the best feeling if you're planning on not using the entire cue.

Edit 2

Option 3: Not my favourite option, but what I was trying to do was for one, use music that is not used anyone in the film (so no chance of being reminded of another scene) and for two, I think this was originally intended to be a pick up...an alternate ending used for this part.

This is the ending of the alternate (used) version of "PROBE DROID" BUT, if you listen in the film, the cut from the alternate probe droid to the original version is a bit different and lacks this... which makes me thinkt hat in production, they layered this to kinda end the cue rather than have the same part on two tracks.

Kinda confusing unless you've listened, but suffice it to say the alternate Probe Droid was only meant to cover the actual sending, crashing, and exiting of the droid... nothing more. The rest as heard in the film is the original cue.

Anyway, this is that edit.

Edit 3

If you want more options, let me know.

PS: As a side note, they all demonstrate the PROPER syncing of the music... not what's heard or how its edited in the film... but how it was intended as well lol


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Love the new video sample Ady. I like the small changes and additions. Did you read my post about the AT-AT suggestion?
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Ady, give me a few days and I should be able to help out a bit with the monitor situation...
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@ GoodMusician: I just cant get into the alt probe Droid cue. It's just too loud and doesn't seem to accomplish what the all ready established cue achieves. A dark and mysterious theme. I can see why Lucas changed it. I don't think Ady would change it either.

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GM, I don't understand much of where you got the music, but thanks for the edits. The more I hear it, the more I think I like the Alternate Probe Droid, or Original, or whichever one is in your edit. I really like the little teaser of the Imperial March (though its not a teaser in Revisited as it is already in ANHR a couple times). Also the more I listen to it, the more I would like to see Edit 1 balanced against the sound effects, which may or may not be impossible, and this upcoming debate may be all for naught.

I've never really minded the farfare that was there, but I understand why some might want to replace it. If we're only replacing that one part, I would do Edit 2. I like that theme.

EDIT: I had never heard the theme from Edit 2 before this morning, now I heard it in the Star Wars Games Retrospective!

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#1 is interesting to see not only how well the uncut music syncs to the film but also how MUCH music Williams wrote. It doesn't feel like it needed 12 minutes of continuous music and, depending on your preferences maybe it didn't, but from an editing perspective, it's nice to have that material to work with.

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I've heard all the unused music before and I love how the music syncs to the actual probe droid crash, but not immediately after that, when it rises from the crater. Feels more cutesy than menacing. I dunno, there's just something about it. If it had always been there in every version, however, might be a different story. Heh.

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I don't see how anybody can like the alt probe droid cue IMO. It's way too loud, and it doesn't compliment the action on screen even though it was originally written for it. The established cue is way better IMO.

I really hope Ady keeps it the way it is.

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The reason I demostrated the original cue (yes, that's the ORIGINAL Probe Droid cue) rather than the film alternate is that is Ady is going to be rebuilding the Sound field, then the alternate will produce more problems than it will solve.

For one, the music quality is different than the rest becuase it was one of a couple tracks that are improperly and haphazardly mixed on the SE.

Two, it's missing a few bars which enable the transition between it and the music as Luke is on the taun taun.

And lastly, to simply show what it was like.

As for the request to mix in the sfx, I've done that before... but my video got pulled from YouTube... I'll post it again here if you'd like...


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GoodMusician said:

The reason I demostrated the original cue (yes, that's the ORIGINAL Probe Droid cue) rather than the film alternate is that is Ady is going to be rebuilding the Sound field, then the alternate will produce more problems than it will solve.

For one, the music quality is different than the rest becuase it was one of a couple tracks that are improperly and haphazardly mixed on the SE.

Two, it's missing a few bars which enable the transition between it and the music as Luke is on the taun taun.

And lastly, to simply show what it was like.

As for the request to mix in the sfx, I've done that before... but my video got pulled from YouTube... I'll post it again here if you'd like...


You already have it SFXed? Awesome. You can post it here, we won't tell anyone!

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Sorry for veering off the cue topic, but I just realized something that I haven't mentioned yet. Adywan, are you going to eliminate the spiral space effect when the Millennium Falcon goes into Hypserspace in the end? I was disappointed when you got rid of it in your "A New Hope" cut and so I'm kind of begging you not to eliminate it in this one.
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doubleofive said:

GoodMusician said:

The reason I demostrated the original cue (yes, that's the ORIGINAL Probe Droid cue) rather than the film alternate is that is Ady is going to be rebuilding the Sound field, then the alternate will produce more problems than it will solve.

For one, the music quality is different than the rest becuase it was one of a couple tracks that are improperly and haphazardly mixed on the SE.

Two, it's missing a few bars which enable the transition between it and the music as Luke is on the taun taun.

And lastly, to simply show what it was like.

As for the request to mix in the sfx, I've done that before... but my video got pulled from YouTube... I'll post it again here if you'd like...


You already have it SFXed? Awesome. You can post it here, we won't tell anyone!

Yeah, really! Funny that it got pulled from YT, too, especially as LFL has pretty much given the green light to so many other Star Wars-related things. And even the Revisited and Reborn trailers are still there, right?

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Ok, that teaser was beyond awesome.
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I can't find my old mix, so I decided to real quick create a new one... This goes from the opening of the film all the way to the face out to Luke lying in the snow about to speak to Ben.

Here it is:
Mix 1


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ok, just a quickie because i need to address something that is going on in another forum (but i can't join there cuz they say my ISP email address is a free account when its clearly not and i'm not paying to join.)

this is for Kurgan who is having problems with his account and can't post in this site.

the TIEs will NOT be grey. They change colour so many times throughout the movie i am having to bring them all back to grey then adding the blue/grey tint to match the correct colouring of the model used in filming ESB & ROTJ. The saturation of the TIEs was boosted in composition in ESB to bring out the blue but in many shots they boosted it too much and it became an unnatural colour, not matching the actual models.


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Though honestly if he's the type who'd seriously decide it'd be a good idea to make TIE fighters in ESB white (the TIEs in SW are white only to resolve technical issues with blue screen photography: the fighters were originally supposed to be blue) then maybe he's not entirely the best sort of person to be helming a project like this. You'd think he would have done the research to prove him wrong.

well maybe if you had done your research when Kurgan posted a link to this thread you would have seen that i addressed this issue ages ago here when i first mentioned the colouring (although i did forget to mention that they weren't going to be entirely grey). i do know what i am talking about. i did a lot of reasearch for ANH:R and have a vast amount of reference behind the scenes clips & photos of the actual models used for filming and have already mentioned the reason why the TIEs were a different colour in ANH and that was due to an older blue screen technique that they had to have the TIE models white to stop them becoming transparent due to their colouring clashing with the blue screen. hence their white/ grey colouring. But when it came to ESB the bluescreen technology had advanced and the colouring could be returned, but boosted too much just because they could now show off that they could introduce blue to compositing. you can check out the different colouring of the TIE fighers used here:

TIE EXHIBITION PICS

there are major colouring issues with the TIEs, thanks to the damn colouring in the 2004 DVD set, but also in the GOUT as they are completely grey in some shots and the TIE bombers change colour too. some of the TIEs are actually almost purple in the 2004 version so i have to eliminate any colouring first before i can return them to their correct modelling colour. The correct colour is a light blue/grey and that's the colour they will be in this edit

Don't worry Kurgan, just because you can't voice your opinions here, you were a great supporter of ANH:R and i do still listen to you even if you are in a galaxy far, far away. :)

also there won't be any stardestroyers in the atmosphere in any of the bespin sequences. they belong in space. although we do see the earlier versions landing and taking off in the PT they are different ships, to me, and smaller in size so maybe could travel in and out of the atmosphere but not stardestroyers and they never will in any of my edits.

i'll reply to you posts, GoodMusician, a bit later once i have a chance to view your clips

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No rush Ady... ;-) We're just kinda idly debating lol


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Good, in canon, Victory-class Star Destroyers and smaller can enter atmosphere. The types you see in the OT can't.
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Damn! I've been such an idiot! But now I know where to get all of life's answers....

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hey all

good to see this moving forwards - haven't been keeping too close an eye as i thought it was going to be a while longer before the ball really got rolling on this edit. so i'm playing catchup a little.
anyway one thing that i haven't seen mentioned - though i may have missed it is there are a few shots of vader on the bridge of the executor where the balance between vader and the viewports is way off - the space is so black that vader looks very grey in comparisson - lightening space (simulating glass) would seem to go against continuity from anh:r so darkening vader to a believable level should be the solution

ady - any plans to do a scene in 3d for the extras? - loved the last one
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