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Ripplin said:

Boy, they sure were inconsistent with the backgrounds! You don't notice quite as much until the screenshots are put up. ;)


Well, think about it, each angle required a completely different huge painting than the one before, and no 3D model (physical or not) existed for them to match up to, so they just had to guess. Then with the SE they had to refer to these handful of paintings and try to figure out how they would look in 3D, then only change half the shots (sorry, bias showing through there). It also looks like there's a lot more buildings that should be seen from the Falcon's platform in the CGI approach shots... There's only so much one man can do to fix it.

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WTF!! What kind of crazy shell game is ILM playing here?! Seriously, the buildings in those screen caps change from one shot to the next. Empire used to be my favorite movie, but now... ;)

While we are on the subject of the approach to Cloud City, the 2004 Empire DVD has a cool animation of the Falcon breaking through the clouds to land before the DVD goes to its main menu. It might be worth looking at as a possible addition to the movie.
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doubleofive said:

Savage makes good points. I've gone back and forth enough, but I suppose my first screenshots stand with Savage's idea here.

Here are more background comparisons:

Slave 1 load:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3041/esbslave1loadlj7.jpg
Slave 1 leave:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1817/esbslave1qe4.jpg

These backgrounds do not match at all, and the clouds behind the close up of Fett match the load screen and not the leave one.


I think it would be best to somehow use the Slave I load scene clouds and buildings for the Slave I leave scene. The leave scene is a wider shot, but I believe the background could be extended a bit with Ady's software
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http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3010/esbfalcon1do4.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5728/esbfalcon2qw4.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8905/esbfalcon3tj5.jpg
Falcon leave:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9699/esbcloudcity2ks9.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4201/esbcloudcity4dk7.jpg

The shot of Han walking towards Lando and the shot of Lando and Co running towards the Falcon match almost perfectly. Everyone walking straight towards camera is a really good match to the Falcon blasting off. It all looks good, except that none of the clouds matching the more CGI shots.

So my vote is to change Slave 1's background in all the shots, because the Falcon one's match fairly well.

That really tall building to the right of the platform and some of the buildings on the left look different.
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You know all you guys that are so detailed with small and sometimes large problems you want fixed amaze me...more power to ya. I'm just happy to see snippets of ESB that have the natural colors once again....I'm also thrilled to see the STARS.

Back thirty years ago, we didn't have the Hubble. You couldn't just turn on your computer and Google outer space and see beautiful shots of galaxies and planets...the stars fields in the Star Wars movies was one of the things I enjoyed most....what a trip it was going to the theater and watching the Falcon fighting Ties amongst all those stars....

Thank you Adywan for your all hard work...I look forward to watching ESB with a natural looking Yoda and the blackness of space that is filled with stars.....very cool.

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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This movie is going to be so much better than the ESB that I know (and that's saying a lot), with all of these great ideas you guys are coming up with. You guys are FREAKS, but I'm thankful for it! So Ady what's your take on all of these new ideas? Peace...
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In the 2004 DVD release the digital matte painting added in 1997 became faded in this shot, is there any way to fix that?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8796/interior1997pr1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1682/interior2004aly6.jpg
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to post a pic you can simply do:

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minus the spaces of course ;-)

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8796/interior1997pr1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1682/interior2004aly6.jpg


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Well it looks like i've got hell of a lot of reading to do this weekend and a lot of things to be answered too. That'll have to wait until either later tonight or tomorrow. Just got so many things on this weekend and not enough time to do it all. On top of that my monitor is being an ass and playing up so looks like i've got to save up for a new one.

anyway here's a much longer preview (just under 9 mins & just under 80mb). Again its split screen and this contains 4 of the scenes that show just how horrible the 2004 colours actually are, plus some new tweaks (see if you can spot them ). the problem with doing these split screens is that the blue tint to the 2004 dvds seems to eliminate the blue tones in the revisited version a bit. oh well.

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I don't want to spoil it for everyone by saying what you changed but I'm really glad that one of the things I suggested you changed. it looks SOOooo much better that way.

I do still kinda wish you would change the fanfare right at the beginning of the video.

or how the music cuts out as soon as 3p0 talks to Han but great none the less...

for a moment there, I thought that first cut was you showing off a new edit of the sequence... then I realized you were just showing off a couple scenes lol

Looks great though... all I can hear in my head is 3P0 while he's attached to Chewies back, right after R2 Unlocks the door to the landing site...

"Wooon-derful! WONderful!" LOL... thats actually my favourite statement of the Han/Leia theme heh


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This is still the DVD sound, so there is still hope GM!

I still have 10 minutes to download it!

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The new tauntaun shadow really improves that scene a lot!
And again I'm amazed at how blue some shots were... I had no idea how bad the bacta scene looked until now.
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Adywan,
First off, thanks for star wars revisited. I lurked on this site for a while when it started and donated to the X0 project. I just wanted the originals back. But after some recent visits I noticed your thread near the top with a lot of traffic. I didn't think an edit was what we needed but since everyone liked yours I thought I'd give it a shot. I gotta say I was blown away. I was expecting an amateurish edit with bad desktop cg, but everything exceeded my expectations. After writing off the saga thanks to the prequels and Lucas's odd agenda, I'm a fan again. This is what the SE should have been. I'm sure everyone here thought they were a fan of the movies until they saw your version. We all got schooled.
So now we're anticipating your version of ESB. I don't want to offer any suggestions but I would like to help out. If you'd accept donations to buy yourself a new monitor, I would gladly contribute.

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Well it looks like i've got hell of a lot of reading to do this weekend and a lot of things to be answered too. That'll have to wait until either later tonight or tomorrow. Just got so many things on this weekend and not enough time to do it all. On top of that my monitor is being an ass and playing up so looks like i've got to save up for a new one.

anyway here's a much longer preview (just under 9 mins & just under 80mb). Again its split screen and this contains 4 of the scenes that show just how horrible the 2004 colours actually are, plus some new tweaks (see if you can spot them ). the problem with doing these split screens is that the blue tint to the 2004 dvds seems to eliminate the blue tones in the revisited version a bit. oh well.

NEW 9MIN PREVIEW
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Wow...nice preview! The only additions I would suggest would be shadows under the speeders in the shots that they're missing and some graphics on those barren speeder displays, maybe similar to what was done with the death star plans.
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One of the missing music sequences I would like to see re-instated (spell?) in the movie would be the one used when Han Solo is just walking into the base after dismounting his tauntaun. I don't have Building Empire on hand, so I can't check to see if that's exactly where it is, but I'm pretty sure that's where it goes. I thought it worked well with the scene.

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Awesome comparison, I was hoping you had blacked out where the skin of Anthony Daniels neck shows in a gap of the 3PO costume during the scene with he and Han by the falcon when Han asks if Skywalker had reported in. (Han yells for deck officer.) But I am sure you will get to it later. :) Or the rebel base doors closing too early.
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Octorox said:

The only additions I would suggest would be shadows under the speeders in the shots that they're missing and some graphics on those barren speeder displays, maybe similar to what was done with the death star plans.

Sevb32 said:

Awesome comparison, I was hoping you had blacked out where the skin of Anthony Daniels neck shows in a gap of the 3PO costume during the scene with he and Han by the falcon when Han asks if Skywalker had reported in. (Han yells for deck officer.) But I am sure you will get to it later. :) Or the rebel base doors closing too early.

like i said the new clip was mainly to show the differences in colour and with a few tweaks added. the majority of "fix" work will be done once all the colour correction is completed
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One of the missing music sequences I would like to see re-instated (spell?) in the movie would be the one used when Han Solo is just walking into the base after dismounting his tauntaun. I don't have Building Empire on hand, so I can't check to see if that's exactly where it is, but I'm pretty sure that's where it goes. I thought it worked well with the scene.

not sure which part you mean here but that scene never did have any music in any cut of the movie.
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I do still kinda wish you would change the fanfare right at the beginning of the video.

yeh, as much as i liked that cue originally when i was younger, it now annoys me that it is used later in the film in vaders mediation chamber scene and now in my mind seems to depict the empire. Have you any thoughts as to what cue would fit better ?
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In the 2004 DVD release the digital matte painting added in 1997 became faded in this shot, is there any way to fix that?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8796/interior1997pr1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1682/interior2004aly6.jpg

they have brightened up the levels so much that in many shots any detail in brighter scenes has been lost. the only sources that i can attempt to repair that matte are cropped at the sides so i don't know how the hell i'm going to be able to fix it yet.
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doubleofive said:


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4980/esbcloudcity1gb9.jpg

Now, this is the shot I mentioned before where I think the windows need to be closed.
A few seconds before this shot, there is a closeup of Leia shooting, but there is no window seen behind her.

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http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6492/esbcloudcity3dw9.jpg

If the windows existed, they should be visible to the left of this door...

Otherwise, I would also like to see more ships take off.

Looking at the angle of the close-ups the first window probably wouldn't be visible, or if it is it would be by only a fraction so not really any need to fix that, plus the windows are around the corner so you wouldn't see them in the outside shot

the TIEs at he end i think i will just have them swoop towards the city towards the end as they are escaping but from the opposite side so the falcon would have escaped before they could get to them

i know i haven't answered everything but i'm getting pretty lost due to the high volume of suggestions so sorry if i haven't replied to your suggestion.

i wonder if someone could do me a huge favour? it would be a huge help for me if someone could go through the thread and collect all the suggestions into one post so i can better keep account of what has been suggested so far? it would be so much easier having it all in one place than having to go through all the pages and would save me time that could be better spent on the edit

well the monitor died tonight. i'm now working on an old 15"lcd tv with an amazing resolution of 800 x 600, so reading the forum now is pretty bloody hard. doing the edit is out of the question until i get the monitor replaced. i loved my old LG monitor too. most of the monitors i've seen aren't half as good picture quality wise as the LG.

i always hate asking this but the only way i can get a monitor replacement that is any good for doing my work is opening up another donation plea again. i hate doing this but i have no other choice. its just typical this had to happen now because i'd started to save up to get a quad core processor cuz this PC is really struggling to handle the higher resolution video i'm, working with this time and thats just with the colour correction (although i am having to use a lot more layers and masks on ESB that i ever did with ANH. curse you lucasfilm. next time don't employ Stevie Wonder to do your colour correction). Now i've got to forget that quad core just so i can get this monitor now (gutted. could have done so much more in less time too)

so if anyone wants to donate anything at all you can do so through paypal using this address:

adywan (at) hotmail (dot) co (dot) uk ( replacing everything in the brackets with the correct symbols of course)

many thanks :)

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Finally watched the new preview, and I have say that we should stop calling this "color correction" and start calling it "colorizing." The steps that you have to go through to get the colors right has to be just as hard as coloring a black and white movie. Funny how George is against colorizing classic black and white movies, but he makes his classic movie blue and white!

I think seven has a pretty comprehensive list going, he just might need to update it a bit. Between all of us, I think we can work from that and add things others may have missed. Don't you worry about it, leave it to us! You have enough to worry about.

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adywan said:

1anakin said:

In the 2004 DVD release the digital matte painting added in 1997 became faded in this shot, is there any way to fix that?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8796/interior1997pr1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1682/interior2004aly6.jpg

they have brightened up the levels so much that in many shots any detail in brighter scenes has been lost. the only sources that i can attempt to repair that matte are cropped at the sides so i don't know how the hell i'm going to be able to fix it yet.


Can you use pieces of the same shot from the GOUT as a...I don't know if there's a name for it...a "contrast mask"...to put back the washed out details?

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Ziz said:

adywan said:

1anakin said:

In the 2004 DVD release the digital matte painting added in 1997 became faded in this shot, is there any way to fix that?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8796/interior1997pr1.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1682/interior2004aly6.jpg

they have brightened up the levels so much that in many shots any detail in brighter scenes has been lost. the only sources that i can attempt to repair that matte are cropped at the sides so i don't know how the hell i'm going to be able to fix it yet.


Can you use pieces of the same shot from the GOUT as a...I don't know if there's a name for it...a "contrast mask"...to put back the washed out details?

the walls were solid in the GOUT so i wouldn't be able to use that to repair the matte i'm afraid

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Hey Ady, I'll see about compiling suggestions and who made them...

And ady, what sort of screen are you looking to get?

As far as the backgrounds, Would it be possible to maybe simply redo them... like... cut out the windows, and completely replace them... maybe take a still image of one of the establishing shots (cause lord knows theres a ton now) and simply place it in there... add some depth, and layer over it with some ships?

ie: it won't look the same... but will have the same effect


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Ady, Sorry to hear about your monitor. Wish I could donate but my funds are really short at the moment.

Anyway, I'm reposting a suggestion from a few pages that you probably didn't catch.

There is one SE change in ESB that I would like to see changed back to it's original if it hasn't been mentioned all ready. On cloud city when 3P0 walks away from company following the sound from a would be R2 unit into a unknown room. The voice "Who are you?" has been changed. Although it says the same thing, it's clearly a different voice. Is it possible to change that voice back to it's original?

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Ok, I see the difference now in the edges of the frame. Ironic, ain't it? The one time you WANT the '04 version to be darker, it isn't.

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ben_danger said:

if you were to have ties in, would you consider having a star destroyer in the far distance? i dont know how, but one thing i did like about the PT is seeing star destroyers in other enviroments other than just space.

loving the traffic ideas, i think the backgrounds need that extra movement to give them the realism that coruscant had.



I second this request
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As I mentioned, I'd keep tabs on suggestions so I made a new thread for them.

The first post will serve as a means for Adywan to see right off the bat WHAT the suggetsions are.

I made that topic here.


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