Fang Zei said:

lordjedi said:

If the latest Blade Runner release didn't help Lucas "get the picture" what makes you think a Godfather restoration will?

Because Coppola and Lucas worked together on several projects back in the day, which is a lot more than can be said for Lucas and Scott.

And so did Spielberg and Lucas. With CEOTTK on Blu-Ray, it's pretty gawd damned obvious that Lucas doesn't give two shits what his previous partners are doing now. You can even read the interview with Lucas and Spielberg where Lucas constantly paints the negative reviews of the PT as "high hopes" instead of "piss poor story telling" and tells Spielberg to expect the same, to which Spielberg says "Speak for yourself George".

Fang Zei said:

To elaborate on what I was saying:

McCallum made that comment about "100 hours of documentaries for the next release." If they're going through all that trouble, what makes you think they would throw ALL of that in as a bonus to the movies themselves and NOT include the OOT? We've discussed - at length - Lucas' lack of sense when it comes to these movies, but that wouldn't even make any BUSINESS sense. Most people don't even bother to watch any of the extras on their dvd's, especially if they buy a lot of them. Granted, with blu-ray, it'll only take one extra disc per movie to fit all 100 hours of said documentaries into the set in standard def. Maybe this isn't of any consequence, especially since we don't know if McCallum meant "new documentaries" or "recycled but hard to find old documentaries."

Because, once again, Lucas doesn't give two shits about the OOT anymore.

Fang Zei said:

With Blade Runner, I picked up the 5-disc blu-ray even though I don't even have a bd player (or even an hdtv!). This was after I heard two things: 1) WB was going to phase out hd dvd, and 2) discs 2 and 4 on the hi-def releases were on regular ol' standard dvd's (those are the documentary discs, and having seen almost all the versions of the movie itself - except for the workprint and the international cut - the new documentaries were the only things I was really dying to watch).

I picked up the 5 disc set on regular DVD. I was never worried about HD or Blu-ray because I wasn't going to get involved in that war. If prices on BD players drop to under $200 this Christmas, I'll pick one up and get the BD set of Blade Runner. But this is largely irrelevant to the discussion.

Fang Zei said:

Blade Runner is just one movie, which is why WB went through the trouble of putting out, all at once (inhale):

2-disc dvd
4-disc dvd
5-disc briefcase dvd
5-disc hi-def (either hd dvd or blu-ray) without the briefcase
5-disc hi-def with the briefcase.

Um, no. WB went through all that trouble because it's what the fans have been begging for for YEARS. Some people only wanted the Final Cut (which is essentially a remastered and fixed up Directors Cut akin to the SEs, but with no story elements changed), which is the first set. Others wanted all versions except the WP, which is the 4 disc set. Finally, some seriously hardcore fans (raises hands) wanted all versions, including the WP, which is any of the 5 disc sets.

Once all the discs were made, the versions with and without briefcase probably didn't have a significant cost difference to produce.

Fang Zei said:

You think Lucas would go through all that trouble for all six Star Wars films?

If it's what the fans have been begging for, yes. But Lucas doesn't listen to his fans anymore, which is why I don't think we'll EVER see the OOT on anything besides those bonus discs.

Fang Zei said:

I'd think he'd want to keep it simple, maybe make this blu-ray only just as the 2004 set was dvd only. I mean, who doesn't own the movies on standard dvd by now?! I don't think LFL is going to sell any more of those.

A lot of people might own them on standard DVD, but not everybody (again, raises hands). Until those players come down more in price, a lot of people simply won't be able to play a hi-def only release. I know plenty of people that have big HDTVs but they still only have regular DVD players. In fact, that's still a huge chunk of the market.

And no one owns a fully remastered, anamorphic release of the OOT on DVD. No one at all.

Fang Zei said:

As for throwing in the OOT, well, you can read my reasoning again if you want. To reiterate, I don't think it makes a lick of sense to throw in a whole bunch of documentaries no one will watch WITHOUT ALSO throwing in the OOT.

Except that, again, we're talking about Lucas. This is the same man that released "state of the art in 1993" in 2006. So what makes sense to do for us isn't what he's likely going to do. I could be completely wrong, but based on this idiots history, I'd expect a standard DVD release with all those documentaries and no OOT. After all, everybody already has it from the '06 set, right?

Fang Zei said:

Look, we all know the man is crazy, but I think his desire to not be hated that much combined with his desire to be a good businessman will eventually dictate that he release the OOT on hi-def. His pride and his ego aren't that big.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! You apparently haven't been keeping up with his comments on Indy IV. He doesn't give a shit if he's hated. In fact, he thinks he's hated due to "high expectation" and not "begin a piss poor story teller". His pride and his ego are in fact HUGE. He doesn't even need to be a "good businessman" anymore. He's got plenty of money. He still thinks the name "Star Wars" has credibility, even though it took him a while to find someone to pick up the Clone Wars series (remember how no one wanted it?). He blames Hollywood losses on piracy instead of the crap movies that have been coming out. This man really has no clue about anything anymore. Whatever he believes is true, is true. Perception is definitely reality for Lucas and it's that simple.