adywan said:
I'm just going to answer a few of the suggestions at the moment because there have been so many.
Well i was just looking at that shot and i would be able to put a laser blast in if he was actually holding his gun at that point. The shot they have Han has actually got some sort of tool and is holding it with both hands. They must have taken it from a cut shot of Han repairing the outside of the Falcon.
ANSWER - Firstly, thanks for taking the time to answer ANY questions/suggestions Ady!
Although this shot is very brief and indistinct, when watching the SE release on my television screen, I can see what looks likes Han's right hand finger on the trigger of what he's holding, better than is obvious in the photo above. It's almost as if the silver barrel is incomplete, but is so brief that it is not too much of a problem. I didn't mean this shot though, as there is no laserbolt sound effect at that point. What I meant was the next shot where the Mynock falls off the Falcon amid 'sparks'. Is it possible to insert a laserbolt immediately as we cut to this shot, to coincide with the laserbolt sound effect that is clearly heard at this point? This would be a welcome addition I feel.
As has been said, during the sabre duel Luke isn't in the pit as it starts its cycle so the steam would be less as there is nothing in there to freeze so i won't be changing this
ANSWER - Well, you can't win 'em all! I do however certainly see the logic in your and Ziz's explanation of this.
I'll see what i can do
ANSWER - Great, as this was always one of my favourite FX shots from the movie!
Already been taken care of
ANSWER - Impressive....most impressive....(in best deep voice)
His sabre is already on the gantry in the birds eye shot so no fix needed for this
ANSWER - No doubleofive, it seems you're not crazy, and that it IS there! Hands up all those in the world that didn't notice it there before.... (mine certainly is!) Throughout numerous viewings on various screens and displays in the past, I just didn't realise that was meant to be it, lol. Having checked both GOUT and SE releases, I find it is still not obvious as the Lightsaber due to it's position and shadowing. I always thought that particular object was an item with a 'hose'/'tubing' attachment lying there with the other debris, rather than the hilt lying ON TOP of 'hose'/tubing'....and obviously could have done with your yellow arrow in the past!
Ady, I am using a very nicely set up television screen with excellent colour, brightness and contrast levels adjusted, and the whole gantry walkway on the SE release is coloured/shadowed in such a way where the shadowed Lightsaber seems to merge into it too much to be obvious. It does seem more noticeable in your vibrantly-coloured shot above though, especially with that arrow! Even though this seems to be it, the shot is so brief that your eye is distracted by either the struggling Luke in the centre, or the flashing gantry light on the left. If you are happy with the current solution of it lying on the walkway in this 'birds-eye' shot alone, I would ask you to consider moving it over a bit nearer where Luke is clinging on, which is the area viewers focus on, so that it's more easily seen as a stand-alone item. If you choose to leave it where it is, then I would ask that you perhaps 'bring it out' a bit from the shadowing and 'hose'/tubing' beside it. And to be really pedantic, the end of the hilt seems to cut off slightly at a strip edge on the floor of the walkway, rather than overlap it slightly to be nearer the actual edge of the walkway where Luke's fingertips are clinging on. The actual proportions of the edge of the gantry can more clearly be seen in the following shot's 'close-up' of the actual set that Luke scrambles back onto, which of course due to the angle of the shot, hides the fact that the Lightsaber is on it, even if you do put it nearer him in the 'birds-eye' shot.
I'd still love to see an added 'falling' Lightsaber deactivating near Luke as he goes backwards through the window before this though, so that it's easily identifiable amongst the debris during that brief shot....because it could be a very neat-looking, subtle addition to the proceedings, and help to more easily identify that it would be deactivated on the walkway seen in the 'birds-eye' shot.
(oh and the pics posted are just for reference. no colour correction has been done on these. i just brightened them so you can see them better)
I'm just going to answer a few of the suggestions at the moment because there have been so many.
ImperialFighter said:
An actual laserblast from Han's pistol hitting the Mynock that he shoots it off the Falcon inside the Asteroid Slug would be nice.
An actual laserblast from Han's pistol hitting the Mynock that he shoots it off the Falcon inside the Asteroid Slug would be nice.
Well i was just looking at that shot and i would be able to put a laser blast in if he was actually holding his gun at that point. The shot they have Han has actually got some sort of tool and is holding it with both hands. They must have taken it from a cut shot of Han repairing the outside of the Falcon.
ANSWER - Firstly, thanks for taking the time to answer ANY questions/suggestions Ady!
Although this shot is very brief and indistinct, when watching the SE release on my television screen, I can see what looks likes Han's right hand finger on the trigger of what he's holding, better than is obvious in the photo above. It's almost as if the silver barrel is incomplete, but is so brief that it is not too much of a problem. I didn't mean this shot though, as there is no laserbolt sound effect at that point. What I meant was the next shot where the Mynock falls off the Falcon amid 'sparks'. Is it possible to insert a laserbolt immediately as we cut to this shot, to coincide with the laserbolt sound effect that is clearly heard at this point? This would be a welcome addition I feel.
ImperialFighter said:
The 'steam/smoke' that comes out of the Carbon Freeze Chamber hole as Han is lowered is a satisfyingly large and dramatic amount.....however the amount that comes out of the same hole when Darth tries to do the same to Luke during their duel IS NOT. It always seemed an unsatisfactory and disappointingly small amount compared to the Han effort, and I would love to see this improved on if it is within your capabilities. If you agree of course! Another thing I think would add to the dramatic effect of both sequences, is that during the actual INITIAL big flurry of engulfing steam/smoke that emerges from the Chamber hole....a very brief blue flash or two is also superimposed on it then too, as is seen in subsequent moments during the process.
The 'steam/smoke' that comes out of the Carbon Freeze Chamber hole as Han is lowered is a satisfyingly large and dramatic amount.....however the amount that comes out of the same hole when Darth tries to do the same to Luke during their duel IS NOT. It always seemed an unsatisfactory and disappointingly small amount compared to the Han effort, and I would love to see this improved on if it is within your capabilities. If you agree of course! Another thing I think would add to the dramatic effect of both sequences, is that during the actual INITIAL big flurry of engulfing steam/smoke that emerges from the Chamber hole....a very brief blue flash or two is also superimposed on it then too, as is seen in subsequent moments during the process.
As has been said, during the sabre duel Luke isn't in the pit as it starts its cycle so the steam would be less as there is nothing in there to freeze so i won't be changing this
ANSWER - Well, you can't win 'em all! I do however certainly see the logic in your and Ziz's explanation of this.
ImperialFighter said:
And I'd love to see the Falcon's landing gear 'legs' retract a bit AFTER it has turned to escape from the lasers on the 'floating city' landing platform, just as it zooms away into the distance....
And I'd love to see the Falcon's landing gear 'legs' retract a bit AFTER it has turned to escape from the lasers on the 'floating city' landing platform, just as it zooms away into the distance....
I'll see what i can do
ANSWER - Great, as this was always one of my favourite FX shots from the movie!
ImperialFighter said:
The second 'Probe' crash that Luke watches on his Tauntaun is a far better-looking object entry (longer, lighter streak effect ) than the initial bright pink 'blob' that crashes into Hoth. The shot just before the 'pink blob' shows the 'casing' of the Imperial Probe Droid heat up as it enters the Hoth atmosphere, then darken. I think the charred 'casing' crashing into the snow instead of a 'pink blob' would look far better, or at least would be better if it at least looked more like the one Luke watches.
The second 'Probe' crash that Luke watches on his Tauntaun is a far better-looking object entry (longer, lighter streak effect ) than the initial bright pink 'blob' that crashes into Hoth. The shot just before the 'pink blob' shows the 'casing' of the Imperial Probe Droid heat up as it enters the Hoth atmosphere, then darken. I think the charred 'casing' crashing into the snow instead of a 'pink blob' would look far better, or at least would be better if it at least looked more like the one Luke watches.
Already been taken care of
ANSWER - Impressive....most impressive....(in best deep voice)
ImperialFighter said:
I don't know if you've got round to working out what you want to do with this particular scene yet, but here's a possible solution to Luke's 'missing' Lightsaber as he crashes through the 'window' during his duel with Darth.
I don't know if you've got round to working out what you want to do with this particular scene yet, but here's a possible solution to Luke's 'missing' Lightsaber as he crashes through the 'window' during his duel with Darth.
His sabre is already on the gantry in the birds eye shot so no fix needed for this
ANSWER - No doubleofive, it seems you're not crazy, and that it IS there! Hands up all those in the world that didn't notice it there before.... (mine certainly is!) Throughout numerous viewings on various screens and displays in the past, I just didn't realise that was meant to be it, lol. Having checked both GOUT and SE releases, I find it is still not obvious as the Lightsaber due to it's position and shadowing. I always thought that particular object was an item with a 'hose'/'tubing' attachment lying there with the other debris, rather than the hilt lying ON TOP of 'hose'/tubing'....and obviously could have done with your yellow arrow in the past!
Ady, I am using a very nicely set up television screen with excellent colour, brightness and contrast levels adjusted, and the whole gantry walkway on the SE release is coloured/shadowed in such a way where the shadowed Lightsaber seems to merge into it too much to be obvious. It does seem more noticeable in your vibrantly-coloured shot above though, especially with that arrow! Even though this seems to be it, the shot is so brief that your eye is distracted by either the struggling Luke in the centre, or the flashing gantry light on the left. If you are happy with the current solution of it lying on the walkway in this 'birds-eye' shot alone, I would ask you to consider moving it over a bit nearer where Luke is clinging on, which is the area viewers focus on, so that it's more easily seen as a stand-alone item. If you choose to leave it where it is, then I would ask that you perhaps 'bring it out' a bit from the shadowing and 'hose'/tubing' beside it. And to be really pedantic, the end of the hilt seems to cut off slightly at a strip edge on the floor of the walkway, rather than overlap it slightly to be nearer the actual edge of the walkway where Luke's fingertips are clinging on. The actual proportions of the edge of the gantry can more clearly be seen in the following shot's 'close-up' of the actual set that Luke scrambles back onto, which of course due to the angle of the shot, hides the fact that the Lightsaber is on it, even if you do put it nearer him in the 'birds-eye' shot.
I'd still love to see an added 'falling' Lightsaber deactivating near Luke as he goes backwards through the window before this though, so that it's easily identifiable amongst the debris during that brief shot....because it could be a very neat-looking, subtle addition to the proceedings, and help to more easily identify that it would be deactivated on the walkway seen in the 'birds-eye' shot.
(oh and the pics posted are just for reference. no colour correction has been done on these. i just brightened them so you can see them better)
And thanks for that, as I can now make the Lightsaber out! ;)