ChainsawAsh said:

lordjedi said:

California recently tried to require parents to give their kids immunization for cervical cancer. Cervical cancer usually comes about the younger you start having sex. The older you get, like over 20 or 22, the lower (much lower) your chances. The State has no business pushing its bullshit agenda on those of us that don't want it or need it.

Why the hell is it a bad thing to get an immunization for a deadly disease?

Did I say it was a bad thing? I don't recall saying that. What I said is that the government has no business pushing it on people that don't want it. Cervical cancer is preventable (don't have sex at a young age and you likely won't get it). If you want to get your 13 year old the immunization, go for it. But don't make my kid get it when we feel it's unnecessary. It's not like you're going to catch cervical cancer from somebody's kid. Cervical cancer isn't chicken pocks or measles. The easiest way to get it is to have sex at a young age. The easiest way to prevent it is to not have sex at a young age.

zombie84 said:

Tiptup I am aware of all the issue you are bringing up, if you read my original post my point was "if something you do harms no one, nor harms society, then why punish someone for it?", which is really as far as I wished that simplistic "live and let live" sentiment to be taken. You don't need to turn that into anything more than it is.

But what can you possibly do that has no effect on anyone else? This is a serious question. I've thought of a few things, but the moment you have any interaction with anyone beside yourself, there is an effect. Everything has what I call a "blast radius". The blast radius can be good or bad (it's generally considered bad). Generally speaking, the more off track a person gets, the larger the blast radius.

So please, give us an example of something you can do that doesn't harm anyone or society.