Sevb32 said:

Who besides George directed and wrote ANH? I bet you don't call that acting wooden? Even though Fisher, Ford and Hamill state how George directed simply. "Faster, more intense"

I guess you didn't actually read what i wrote and jumped to the conclusion that i was George & PT bashing.

adywan said:

Jedi became the sign to us all that the George we all loved was gone. His divorce changed him. His ideas were gone and Jedi proved that.

This is true and a fact. You can see how his style changed. Divorce does this to people. I know cuz i've been through it. After this he became surrounded by "yes" men. No one challenged him or his decisions. ANH, if it hadn't been for the editing which Lucas handed over to other people for the final version, could have been just like the PT. You only have to look at the original cut of the cantina. It was long and drawn out just like many scenes in the PT. Now to prove my case just watch the OT and notice how tight the editing is. It doesn't concentrate on shots any longer than it should, which is a mark of good editing. Now look at the PT and the editing again shows this long and drawn out style. Where a scene or shot should end it lingers and creates many pauses that really shouldn't be there.

I'm not a PT hater and i have stated this so many times. I'm not a GL hater either, after all he gave us this saga. But at times you need to take a step back and look at your favourite trilogies without the rose tinted glasses. ANH has its faults but great editing created a great movie. ESB has a great story and is the best of the saga. ROTJ very much the weakest of the OT and scores low for me.

Now we get to the PT.
TPM : had its good points but you never connected with the characters the way you did with the OT characters and relied to heavily on the visuals to get your attention and not the characters and story. The humour relied too much on childish slapstick which even my kids , who were very young at the time, didn't find funny and actually found irritating
AOTC: i loved this film when it came out. Much better than TPM but the whole love story just didn't work. there was no chemistry between the two actors. For this i don't just blame George but Hayden is a terrible actor. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that his wooden delivery was down to the director but NO. Having seen him in Awake and Jumper since, he's almost the same character and delivers his lines the same way he did in the PT. Although there was one scene that i felt was his best which was when his mother died. Very powerful scene. You could feel the rage and that was great. The whole love story being stylised on the 30s romantic films well what can i say apart from there was no similarity towards that genre whatsoever.
ROTS: a good film in general but it became rushed towards the end as he tried to resolve everything. The "turning to the dark side" story was dealt with badly also. he gave up everything & turned too quickly. he didn't even bat an eyelid when the emperor admitted that he had lied to him and that he didn't know the secret to save padme. Now if you had turned your back on everything for some guy who promised that he knew this secret to save the one you loved and then admitted he didn't, wouldn't you be pissed? i know i would and so would every other real person, which is why his characterisation failed.

Good is a point of view that changes as you mature. i wonder how many of the younger audience, as they grow older, will still think the PT is great. Not many i can tell you. it certainly will never have the lasting appeal that the OT has and that has been proven over recent years as the audience has matured.

Now please can we end this PT vs OT subject until i at least get around to the PT. This is the ESB thread and has nothing to do with the PT. ESB really has no PT connections where as ROTJ does, so that can be addressed in that thread when i start it.