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Since someone brought up the horrible explosions of the two TIE fighters in the trench of the asteroid, (which needs replacing totally) I got to thinking about the TIE bombers as they skim the surface. When they drop "bombs", they just go SPLAT and don't affect what they hit at all. I feel no menace from them at all.

Also, the Mynocks.... we all know they look horrible flying around on wire so whatever can be done, for the love of god, do it. But that's not what really bothers me. Its when they scare Leia inside the cockpit. The sound would be better if they actually sounded like they were "outside" the ship instead of inside with her. The levels should be changed and muffled with a slight echo or something.

The dialogue needs a very very slight tweak too.... When Han says he's going closer to one of the "big ones".... This is the dialogue that is written and supposed to be said, even if you turn on closed captioning....

HAN: I'm going IN closer to one of the big ones.

the problem is that he sounds like he's saying a sentence that doesn't make sense, because it actually sounds like he's saying....

HAN: I'm going ANY closer to one of the big ones....

check it out and you'll see what I mean. That shit has annoyed me since I was a kid. And it wouldn't hurt to stop his lips from moving as Leia says, "Captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited."

The cave on Dagobah. Now, I don't have any clue what is the limit of your abilities or resources so I'll just say it and you do your thing Ady... The cave needs to be clearer. Its very difficult to figure out that #1: He's in a cave instead of just a dark place in the swamp #2 What this cave looks like. One tiny little bit can be seen of a stone archway but that's about it. I'd just like to get a clearer picture of where and what Luke has gotten himself into.

Oh, I know you can fix the jump shot between the decapitated Vader head and the facemask explosion. That was done okay for the time, but let's update that in the same way you did the lightsaber ignition in ANHR.

I have a thought about the very very beginning of the film with the probe droid as well but this post is getting to long and I'm getting too tired. Essentially, a simple shift of the order of the pod coming into Hoth, landing, being seen by Luke, Luke talking to Han, Luke getting bitch slapped by wampa, Luke being dragged off, THEN we see the probe droid emerge from the crater. Remove the "double" showing of the landing. I have it all worked out but I'm no editor (yet) so if that is something you'd like to see exactly what I mean, I'd gladly put something together for you to review.

And one last thing, if you guys feel like buying a force FX lightsaber then go to Radio Shack. They have the "build your own" lightsabers marked down on clearance to $35 dollars. This past week I've seen them in San Antonio, Las Vegas and Birmingham so its a nationwide thing. Don't know about international guys but I'm in the states so that's all I can say.

PS Was anyone else as disappointed in Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls as I was. What a let down. That was almost as big a let down as The Phantom Menace.

 

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PS Was anyone else as disappointed in Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls as I was. What a let down. That was almost as big a let down as The Phantom Menace.


I think that was inevitable for some people, too many years and a nearly a generation passed, any movie with that kind of gap, with all the stuff we've seen in the past 20 years, was going to disappoint a percentage of people. But about 3 out of 4 of the newest Indy movie reviews are good.
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Darth Stewie said:

Its when they scare Leia inside the cockpit. The sound would be better if they actually sounded like they were "outside" the ship instead of inside with her. The levels should be changed and muffled with a slight echo or something.

That's true. You would think it would be fairly muffled through glass (or whatever it is) that's strong and thick enough to keep out the frigidness of space and heat from re-entry. ;)

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Oh, can you also put Leia in the gold bikini somewhere on Hoth? and in the asteroid field? and on Bespin? and on the medical ship? and during the credits?

Is there any way to go back to ANHR and have her in the gold bikini and showing just exactly what a mind PROBE really does??? Can you somehow insert a pole for her to dance on too?

These ideas would certainly help the story along.

 

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When I said insert a pole.... I didn't mean that the way it sounds.... Well, not intentionally anyway ;)

 

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Darth Stewie said:

Oh, can you also put Leia in the gold bikini somewhere on Hoth? and in the asteroid field? and on Bespin? and on the medical ship? and during the credits?

Is there any way to go back to ANHR and have her in the gold bikini and showing just exactly what a mind PROBE really does??? Can you somehow insert a pole for her to dance on too?

These ideas would certainly help the story along.


I agree. That would definately... uh, help the, uh... story. Definitely. Yes.

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Sevb32 said:

PS Was anyone else as disappointed in Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls as I was. What a let down. That was almost as big a let down as The Phantom Menace.


I think that was inevitable for some people, too many years and a nearly a generation passed, any movie with that kind of gap, with all the stuff we've seen in the past 20 years, was going to disappoint a percentage of people. But about 3 out of 4 of the newest Indy movie reviews are good.


And how does this relate to Ady's project?
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It doesn't, I was responding to someone else.
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Also, I have an idea for how to have Emperor Palpatine say 'Luke Skywalker' in the transmission, instead of 'young Skywalker'. However, it's too crazy, in my opinion, to be taken seriously. Some would call it 'thinking outside the box'. If said box is the Box of Sanity, I'd agree with them.

(...Man, I'm seriously gonna make or break my credibility on this site with this suggestion. All these people reading how crazy I am...)

My idea involves getting someone to imitate Ian McDiarmid's evil Emperor voice for the phrase "Luke Skywalker", and blending the word "Luke" into the dialogue we already have of Palpatine's. If the joint between Ian McDiarmid's dialogue and the newly recorded "Luke" is too obvious, perhaps a burst of static on the hologram could mask it. Who would do the extra Emperor dialogue, I don't know. Who would take this idea seriously... well, I guess I'll find out soon, won't I?


Been following these forums for a while, but this is my first time posting (anywhere on these boards)

I was thinking about this whole "Luke Skywalker" line in Ian's voice thing. And I have an idea on it that may be just slightly less ludicrous, maybe slightly more.

Anyway, on the ROTS soundtrack release, there is a bonus DVD Star Wars: A Musical Journey. I'm sure tons of you have it or at least know of it. On it, there are several introductions done by Ian McDiarmid of various pieces of Star Wars music. And several times, he says "Luke Skywalker". Now granted, the tone and inflection may be off, it's Ian's normal speaking voice, but perhaps someone knowledgeable with sound manipulation could make it sound a bit more like the Emperor? Just a thought, might be a good starting place.

BTW, Ady, loved A new Hope Revisited. Downloading the DVD-9 right now. This is my preferred version of Star Wars, and I cannot wait to see what you do with the rest of the saga.
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Been following these forums for a while, but this is my first time posting (anywhere on these boards)

I was thinking about this whole "Luke Skywalker" line in Ian's voice thing. And I have an idea on it that may be just slightly less ludicrous, maybe slightly more.

Anyway, on the ROTS soundtrack release, there is a bonus DVD Star Wars: A Musical Journey. I'm sure tons of you have it or at least know of it. On it, there are several introductions done by Ian McDiarmid of various pieces of Star Wars music. And several times, he says "Luke Skywalker". Now granted, the tone and inflection may be off, it's Ian's normal speaking voice, but perhaps someone knowledgeable with sound manipulation could make it sound a bit more like the Emperor? Just a thought, might be a good starting place.

BTW, Ady, loved A new Hope Revisited. Downloading the DVD-9 right now. This is my preferred version of Star Wars, and I cannot wait to see what you do with the rest of the saga.


Wow... I have the Musical Journey, and doing that honestly never crossed my mind. And it could perhaps work! I personally don't think it sounds ludicrous. More plausible than mine, I'll give you that. Could mean that Ady wouldn't have to have someone record himself trying to sound like the Emperor.

And like I said before, if the joint between the new word 'Luke' and the the phrase around it, 'We have a new enemy: ____ Skywalker', is too noticeable, a burst of static in the Emperor's audio could work (the Executor is just outside an asteroid field, after all).

Even so, adjusting the pitch to Ian McDiarmid's voice to sound like old Palpsy's croak could be all that's needed to be done to Ian saying 'Luke Skywalker'.

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A burst of static would be ok, as long as that isn't the only burst of static, as long as there is at least one more somewhere in that scene, also, it's probably best to keep the bursts early in the scene.
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I just watched that scene again, and while it would be nice to restore the original dialogue, maybe this is another "meet it halfway" thing...

Original dialogue

Vader- What is thy biding my master?
Emperor- There is a great disturbance in the force.
Vader- I have felt it.
Emperor- We have a new enemy, Luke Skywalker
Vader- Yes my master
Emperor- He could destroy us
Vader- Hes just a boy, Obi wan can no longer help him
Emperor- The force is strong with him..The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi
Vader- If he could be turned he would become a powerful ally
Emperor- Yes..Yes he would be a great asset. Can it be done?
Vader- He will join us or die Master


New dialogue

Vader- What is thy biding my master?
Emperor- There is a great disturbance in the force.
Vader- I have felt it
Emperor- We have a new enemy, the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker
Vader- How is that possible?
Emperor- Search your feelings Lord Vader, you will know it to be true. He could destroy us
Vader- Hes just a boy, Obi wan can no longer help him.
Emperor- The force is strong with him, the son of Skywalker must no become a Jedi.
Vader- If he could be turned he would become a powerful ally.
Emperor- Yes he would be a great asset. Can it be done?
Vader- He will join us or die Master.


The "halfway" version

Vader- What is thy biding my master?
Emperor- There is a great disturbance in the force.
Vader- I have felt it.
Emperor- We have a new enemy, the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star...the son of Skywalker.
Vader- Yes my master
Emperor- He could destroy us
Vader- He's just a boy, Obi wan can no longer help him.
Emperor- The force is strong with him. Skywalker must not become a Jedi.
Vader- If he could be turned he would become a powerful ally.
Emperor- Yes..Yes he would be a great asset. Can it be done?
Vader- He will join us or die Master.

It's not the original word for word, but it solves the "Young/Luke" dialogue change problem. Aside from the obvious removal of the extra added dialogue, the only other change is moving "the son of" to a different point in the conversation. Much less work than trying to manufacture a word that doesn't exist.

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Ziz said:


Emperor- We have a new enemy, the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker
Vader- How is that possible?
Emperor- Search your feelings Lord Vader, you will know it to be true.


but these are the lines that sound really bad so returning it to its original dialogue is what i want to do even if i have to substitute "Luke Skywalker" for "young Skywalker". It still sounds 100% better than the new lines

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I just posted that for reference. Don't like my "halfway" version?

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adywan said:

seven said:

I am not sure if someone has mentioned this suggestion before, but have you thought about doing some bluescreen shots with Studio Scaled models to help create some of the FX shots you are planning to do?

I know there are some really talented people who have already built and painted a lot of SW models that are almost identical to the originals.

Maybe you could put out a feeler if there is anyone with such-and-such model, which they would be whiling to allow you to borrow for your shots. In return you can get a nice FX shot, and they can say their model is 'screen used' in Star Wars Revisited. Just a thought.


I tried that with ANH Revisited and it just didn't work. New model shots would really need to be done on film and not video because they just don't match and also done with the correct motion control cameras & rigging.

Anyway here is a short comparison clip showing a short scene of the Hoth battle with the first pass colour correction and the original 2004 DVD colour. Don't forget this is just the first basic colour pass. many elements have to be done later like missing sky colour (which in some shots is also missing from the 2004 DVD's). You can also see just how green C-3PO is in the DVD versions

COLOUR CORRECTION VISUAL COMPARISON XVID 25mb Approx


If you want to try again, get me a 720p or 1080i original green screen shot on HDV (or that Panasonic thingy) and I can match the grain and junk for you and send you nice, ready to use Alpha channeled mov, Ady. Dont even need to move the cam if you frame it fully.
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Hey, Ady, this might have been addressed, but will you be using HD footage for this edit?

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If a few years have elapsed between ANH and TESB why is the Emperor just now realizing that "We have a new enemy." This 'revelation' should have occurred immediately after the Death Star was turned into smoldering space dust. It would seem that the Emperor had an epiphany, or a vision, that permitted him to know the identity of that "rebel who destroyed the Death Star." In this there is some reason to accept the new dialog since it helps clarify the nature of this conversation and the nature of the Emperor's visions. I don't think the old dialog is any better than the new, and I don't quite understand the arguments that "it adds nothing to the story", etc, in fact it clarifies for the audience the nature of the relationship between the Emperor and Vader as well as establishing a link between the events of ANH and TESB. I do agree that Ian isn't giving us a stellar performance, and has slinked back to the lazy dialog of the ROTS. I love the visual corrections Adywan has done on the overexposed face of the Emperor from the 2004 DVDs, but I liked the new dialog and as far as storytelling goes it does accomplish subtle plot points which are absent in the old dialog. The fact that Vader seems to be hiding his search for Skywalker from the Emperor, "How is that possible?" and the Emperor's seeming unaware, "Search your feelings." I doubt these few lines of argument will assuage those who believe TESB is by and large without fault, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to throw in my two cents.

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If a few years have elapsed between ANH and TESB why is the Emperor just now realizing that "We have a new enemy." This 'revelation' should have occurred immediately after the Death Star was turned into smoldering space dust. It would seem that the Emperor had an epiphany, or a vision, that permitted him to know the identity of that "rebel who destroyed the Death Star." In this there is some reason to accept the new dialog since it helps clarify the nature of this conversation and the nature of the Emperor's visions. I don't think the old dialog is any better than the new, and I don't quite understand the arguments that "it adds nothing to the story", etc, in fact it clarifies for the audience the nature of the relationship between the Emperor and Vader as well as establishing a link between the events of ANH and TESB. I do agree that Ian isn't giving us a stellar performance, and has slinked back to the lazy dialog of the ROTS. I love the visual corrections Adywan has done on the overexposed face of the Emperor from the 2004 DVDs, but I liked the new dialog and as far as storytelling goes it does accomplish subtle plot points which are absent in the old dialog. The fact that Vader seems to be hiding his search for Skywalker from the Emperor, "How is that possible?" and the Emperor's seeming unaware, "Search your feelings." I doubt these few lines of argument will assuage those who believe TESB is by and large without fault, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to throw in my two cents.

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If a few years have elapsed between ANH and TESB why is the Emperor just now realizing that "We have a new enemy." This 'revelation' should have occurred immediately after the Death Star was turned into smoldering space dust. It would seem that the Emperor had an epiphany, or a vision, that permitted him to know the identity of that "rebel who destroyed the Death Star." In this there is some reason to accept the new dialog since it helps clarify the nature of this conversation and the nature of the Emperor's visions. I don't think the old dialog is any better than the new, and I don't quite understand the arguments that "it adds nothing to the story", etc, in fact it clarifies for the audience the nature of the relationship between the Emperor and Vader as well as establishing a link between the events of ANH and TESB. I do agree that Ian isn't giving us a stellar performance, and has slinked back to the lazy dialog of the ROTS. I love the visual corrections Adywan has done on the overexposed face of the Emperor from the 2004 DVDs, but I liked the new dialog and as far as storytelling goes it does accomplish subtle plot points which are absent in the old dialog. The fact that Vader seems to be hiding his search for Skywalker from the Emperor, "How is that possible?" and the Emperor's seeming unaware, "Search your feelings." I doubt these few lines of argument will assuage those who believe TESB is by and large without fault, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to throw in my two cents.