Johnboy3434 said:

The amount of venom in that first post is completely unnecessary.

You can't "objectively" make that assessment...or can you?

In the interest of fairness, however, you can't "objectively" call a movie dog shit. Unless, of course, dog shit was mixed with the celluloid prior to the making of the film.

You're kidding me, right?

Judgments concerning the merit of a piece of art are inherently subjective. Someone who says TPM is the best movie of all time may stand in a very small crowd, but there's nothing you could do to prove him "wrong".

I agree that judging art is purely subjective, but as said above...that's getting to be an old argument for defending the PT. Have you ever taken an English literature class before? If you have, you've read the classics and if you had a teacher worth a damn, he or she would have imparted you with the wonderful ability to read between the lines and analyze such things as theme, metaphor and so on. The original SW is a archetype-laden story with some pretty deep thematic stuff at work. Where is that in the PT? Is it presented well? Is the storytelling style detrimental to the work as a whole? See when you look at it that way, the PT falls apart completely. Wanna debate further?

Fang Zei said:

It's just funny here how so much could be solved by so little. If George is going to keep doing all this stuff with Star Wars without giving us the oh so simple thing we're asking for, then indeed it would be better for Star Wars to die as quick a death as possible.

So, because he won't give a comparatively small amount of consumers exactly what they want, it's better that he deny any further products to the rest of us? Self-centered, much?

It's more the notion that he DENIES that it ever existed. He's said as much, dude. I'm sure most directors and writers are somewhat unhappy with their final product...but Lucas has gone WAY too far by changing it and denying the original to those who wish it. It's revisionist bullshit. The fact that he fucked up so royally with the PT only adds insult to injury, hence some of the hostility.

I would rather see it dead and buried than dead and dragged through the streets with vultures picking it bare. Why? Cuz I remember a time when SW was a benchmark in fiction and filmmaking. If it can't be the best it can be, then I'd rather see it gone. And yeah, it's absolutely self centered....cuz I have standards for my entertainment. When I pay 10 fucking dollars for a movie, I don't want to be jerked around by some hack who can't write or direct. That's why most of what comes out of Hollywood sucks ass today...cuz people accept the garbage that comes out. Not me...and certainly not most of the people who post on this site.