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Why is the GOUT not anamorphic? — Page 3

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Mielr said:

Fang Zei said:

I would think the reason you'd get roughly equivalent picture quality on either the DC laserdisc or the GOUT is the following:

DC laserdisc

pro: It's analog, and therefore uncompressed

con: it's analog, you need a top of the line player to make sure the laser is reading the track as accurately as it can.

GOUT

pro: it's digital, so the laser either reads it or it doesn't.

con: it's digital, so it's a compressed mpeg.
Makes sense.

I don't know, I think the mpeg2 compression is the least of the GOUT's problems. It actually has very little compression artifacts in my opinion. Even in fast moving scenes like the trench run there's hardly any mpeg2 related blockiness to be found.
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I agree with that part of it- I also think they did a pretty good compression job considering the source material. But I understand that compression is an issue with some dvds, and then there's the issue of the Gout's DD audio (vs. the LDs PCM sdtk ).

For me, the Gout is superior to the LDs because of the simple fact that I do not own (nor can I afford) an X0 or X9 player.

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Yea, I didn't really take that into account now that you mention it. Compression wouldn't make much of a difference in 2006. It's just that the only one of the GOUT discs I've actually seen is ROTJ, and that was on a ps2 connected to a small-ass tv via composite.
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It could be wosre; it could be like the Speed Racer DVDs and be time-compressed.
Seriously, though, why not anamorphic?

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Mielr said:

I agree with that part of it- I also think they did a pretty good compression job considering the source material. But I understand that compression is an issue with some dvds, and then there's the issue of the Gout's DD audio (vs. the LDs PCM sdtk ).

For me, the Gout is superior to the LDs because of the simple fact that I do not own (nor can I afford) an X0 or X9 player.


I believe compression issues only occur when a pisspoor compression job is done. Lots of dvds have blockyness in fast moving scenes. That just fucking sucks especially when watching movies on a big screen or beamer. When I compress home movies I use a 10 pass CCE encode with a maximum bitrate. No blockyness whatsoever. If the studios did proper encode jobs there wouldn't be a problem. But lots of retail dvds show artifacts because the studios are lazy.
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question, does anyone have a copy of the laser disk versions, if so why dont they do a transfer to a DVD for themselves?
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shimy said:

question, does anyone have a copy of the laser disk versions, if so why dont they do a transfer to a DVD for themselves?
I have, in fact I bought a LD player just for that purpose. However, that doesn't solve the anamorphic issue, and since the GOUT DVDs became available, I prefer watching those since they look better than my home-made DVDs.

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OK, maybe there's an obvious answer to this question that I'm just not seeing, but here goes:

Since George obviously didn't intend the GOUT to be watched on widescreen displays (what with the subtitles getting cut off and all), why did he bother progressively encoding the video? I thought only widescreen sets were capable of displaying progressive material.
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Part of the answer might be that they did the reverse telecine with an cheap automated process rather than 'by hand' correcting the cadence errors.

More info on the messy GOUT here.

And as you can see being non-anamorphic is certainly not the only problem with the GOUT.

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Fang Zei said:

OK, maybe there's an obvious answer to this question that I'm just not seeing, but here goes:

Since George obviously didn't intend the GOUT to be watched on widescreen displays (what with the subtitles getting cut off and all), why did he bother progressively encoding the video? I thought only widescreen sets were capable of displaying progressive material.
Yeah, but most movie DVDs are flagged progressive (or should be). While they're obviously not formatted for 16:9 TVs, I guess they figured they're going to be watched on a lot of widescreen TVs and computer monitors. Frankly, I'm glad they at least did that much. :-/