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Mainly because Donner has said he'd have his name removed if the KCOP cut was officially released.
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Mitch said:

Update:

I am in the process of buying a Beta player once again.
It is tough to not get outbid on EBAY on one of these things.

Notes: I have looked over the stuff I have assembled it and it looks great. (minus the Beta tape) whcih keep in mind its an original recording, now if memory serves me correctly it awesome - tape rot is possible - keeping fingures crossed.

Items we will be using -

Beta Superman KCOP -
Superman - The ABC cut -
Original KCOP channel 10 broadcast -
Second half a KCOP copy which may even be better ( someone here is sending it to me)
The archived - TCM - restoration of Superman - The Movie - This was created just before the Special Edition was released.
The all new transfers from the mega set -
The original VHS and the Special Edition tape as a guide and possibly some sound and footage (if better quality)


This film will be full on fullscreen - no switch back and forth / widescreen to full - sound will be the original dolby sound ( not the Thau version)

Project is getting looking good -

If there is anyone out there with better copies ( so you think) please send them) we want the best to move forward on this project.

Thanks

Mitch


PLease help ;-)

Hey Mitch, great to know things are moving along. Was any of the stuff I sent you useful?

Oh and what was The archived - TCM - restoration of Superman - The Movie? I've never heard of it.
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Turner Classics Movies had restored the original Superman - The Movie prior to the release of the special edition. AMC does play Superman - The Movie but it is the Special Edition. The version on TCM hasn't been played for years, or atleast in my area. I look for it all the time since now I have digital.

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the restored original cut of superman was released in the box set, the first released disc had the incorrect remix 5.1 but the re-issued disc in the corrected boxset has the 2.0 which is a mixdown of the far superior pcm that was on the japan widescreen laserdisc, uncompressed.

i also have that tcm broadcast on 2 sl discs and it is crap quality in comparison to the official dvd release which is of course a dvd-9 and the official release does not have the offal compression artefacts.

the released blu ray is the donner directors cut and not the theatrical, extremely lame.

was there ever a remastered full frame of the theatrical version? on VHS or DVD?

i have heard the full frame laserdisc is crap and is clv.

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Update:
GOOD NEWS

I recieved a tape from a real nice person that is just a part of the second half of the KCOP cut. However, the good thing is it is the best quality I have ever scene, a real GEM. I would put it at a VHS quality level of an official 80's released video of the film. I have compared it to the Warner original release and it's DAMN close. (that's how good it is) to bad we didn't have the first half. But we can't have cake and eat it too. OR cane we? we are geting close.

Once again, the bad thing is it is just the second half.

So now we are getting somewhere ;-)


THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD!

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The old full frame Laserdisc isn't bad for it's age. (Mid 1980's) I own a non-rotted copy. It would blend well with the print ABC used.
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Mitch said:

Update:
GOOD NEWS

I recieved a tape from a real nice person that is just a part of the second half of the KCOP cut.



aw shucks.....
A real nice nice person? Mitch, ya make me blush! I am very glad that you will be able to use the tape.
I am very excited to see the completed project!

Later

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I wouldn;t mind a copy of the old laserdisc version for the sound purpose. If you could help that would be great. NO THAU sound, lol!!!!


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I finally got my Beta player ;-) now lets check out the Beta Superman tape - hope it's good. I'll update that info on Monday!

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Whoo-Hoo!
Good luck!
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Good luck Mitch!
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Thanks, I hope it works!

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I have previewed the BETA tape on my new Betamax player.

Bad News: The tape still has major tracking problems. I even tried replacing the case. It seems it suffers from TAPE ROT - it tracks horrible in many areas.

The picuture was very good IMO - if it didn't have the tracking issues.

The scenes I would have used was the council scenes, they were not so washed out in this version as they are on others.

All in all it's a major downer! But wew will contiue to work with what we got, and we do have some good copies.
Thanks to all that have contibuted so far ;-)

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Just to make sure its not a player issue, do other tapes work with the BETA player? Sometimes there are professional shops that might be able to transfer tapes with tracking issues.
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I'm very sorry to hear that. :(
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Lacerated said:

Just to make sure its not a player issue, do other tapes work with the BETA player? Sometimes there are professional shops that might be able to transfer tapes with tracking issues.



Ya! I checked that, I have about 7 Beta tapes and they work great but this one has problems. It's really a downer but we will survive. We have some good material for the edit.

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Lacerated said:

Just to make sure its not a player issue, do other tapes work with the BETA player? Sometimes there are professional shops that might be able to transfer tapes with tracking issues.


I contacted a guy that transfer old movies and he said he was worried about Copyright issues. He could re-thread it into a new cassette but I did that and it still didn't work.

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That's too bad. Sometimes community colleges have video editing equipment that might be available for use. Anyway, best of luck in your project!
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I have a co-worker that I'm close with that has several (I believe) BETA machines. I could always try and copy if you wanted my help.
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If anyone is good at creating a few pictures that are on par with the wonderful artist pictures from the Superman II RIC disc, let us know. If they are good we may use it for the menus.

Thanks

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I am still looking for someone to create menu art and a dvd cover art to keep the lines of the Superman II. If anyone has any talent in this area, please contact me.

Superman II RIC had wonderful cover art, I couldn't begin to draw anything that fantastic. It would be cool to bookend since we are putting forth the effort.
If anyone has any talents -lmk! It would be only fitting to have the Cover and Menus similar to the SII-RIC. The RIC II logo looks awesome.

Thanks in advance.

Also, I have come across yet another wonderful direct first gen copy of the ABC cut. Now if I can just get him to send me a copy, lol! The guy is a very cool dude and has his own website. So I think he is gonna help.

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Hey Mitch, do you want me to start a thread for this project over at the Superman Cinema forum? Seems a logical place to spread the word.

Great to know things are progressing well and even better to know that your handling this project with the same respect given to SII RIC.
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Hey Ollie,

We will try to do justice like we did with the Highlander and DUNE (did I say DUNE?)
HMMMMM!!!!! I may have spilled some beans - oops!!

That would be great to open a thread -

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Threads up Mitch.

There's some very well to do Superman folks over there so hopefully you get some positive responses and assistance.
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Thanks Ollie - for your awesome interest!

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