lordjedi said:
First, that is a drop in the bucket compared with the entire history of this planet. Second, the last ice age wiped out a lot in its path and that happened, what, millions of years ago? Maybe it was thousands, not exactly sure.
The point is that 100 years is NOTHING compared to what this planet has been through. Considering that a ME event (Mass Extinction Event) is pretty much what it seems to take to wipe out life (think asteroids that size of Texas like Johnnyboy said) and I think "global warming" is just being politicized WAY to much.
Scientists know that the climate is changing, but they don't know exactly why. They think it might be caused by humans (what a great way to get more funding), but they're not entirely sure. How do we know that it's not a natural cycle? How do we know we can even stop it? We don't. We think we're so great and can do anything as long as we put our minds to it. The reality is the exact opposite. Sure we can recycle and do what we can with what we're given, but if climate change is a naturally occurring process, then there isn't a damn thing we can do to stop it. And even if we tried, we're more likely to screw things up in the process than we are to actually prevent anything.
If you want to survive this planet, then you're better off putting effort into space exploration. The only sure way to survive this rock is to get off this rock.
Arnie.d said:
Ofcourse some life will find a way and something will survive. But if we continue like we are doing now and in 100-200 years there are 15-20 billion people on this planet it can no longer sustain us and there won't be much untouched wilderness left. We are killing the natural world as it existed 100 years ago.
Johnboy3434 said:
I can't help but snicker when people say that humanity is "killing the planet". You know what it takes to kill a planet? Asteroids. The size of Texas. If we piled every nuclear, biological, and otherwise unsavory weapon into one spot and set off the biggest fireworks display in the past 65 million years, I guarantee you that, 100 million years later, intelligent life would still be alive and kickin'. Would they be human? Probably not. But the point is that this planet is a tough old bird, and it's nothing short of arrogant to think we could take her down for the count. And that's not even taking religious beliefs into account.
I can't help but snicker when people say that humanity is "killing the planet". You know what it takes to kill a planet? Asteroids. The size of Texas. If we piled every nuclear, biological, and otherwise unsavory weapon into one spot and set off the biggest fireworks display in the past 65 million years, I guarantee you that, 100 million years later, intelligent life would still be alive and kickin'. Would they be human? Probably not. But the point is that this planet is a tough old bird, and it's nothing short of arrogant to think we could take her down for the count. And that's not even taking religious beliefs into account.
Ofcourse some life will find a way and something will survive. But if we continue like we are doing now and in 100-200 years there are 15-20 billion people on this planet it can no longer sustain us and there won't be much untouched wilderness left. We are killing the natural world as it existed 100 years ago.
First, that is a drop in the bucket compared with the entire history of this planet. Second, the last ice age wiped out a lot in its path and that happened, what, millions of years ago? Maybe it was thousands, not exactly sure.
The point is that 100 years is NOTHING compared to what this planet has been through. Considering that a ME event (Mass Extinction Event) is pretty much what it seems to take to wipe out life (think asteroids that size of Texas like Johnnyboy said) and I think "global warming" is just being politicized WAY to much.
Scientists know that the climate is changing, but they don't know exactly why. They think it might be caused by humans (what a great way to get more funding), but they're not entirely sure. How do we know that it's not a natural cycle? How do we know we can even stop it? We don't. We think we're so great and can do anything as long as we put our minds to it. The reality is the exact opposite. Sure we can recycle and do what we can with what we're given, but if climate change is a naturally occurring process, then there isn't a damn thing we can do to stop it. And even if we tried, we're more likely to screw things up in the process than we are to actually prevent anything.
If you want to survive this planet, then you're better off putting effort into space exploration. The only sure way to survive this rock is to get off this rock.
100 years is nothing but that doesn't have anything to do with what we are doing to the planet. The last ice age ended 10.000 years ago.
The ammount of fossil fuels we use in a year took the earth 10 million years to produce (or was it 100 million?). But destroying the earth isn't only producing CO2. I agree we can't control the climate and we don't know if and how much we are causing it. But that's not what I consider destroying the earth. It's the destruction of the natural world because of human expansion.
I'm all for space exploration and I think that's where our future lies. I wish we could spend all the money we spend on the military on space exploration.
FanFiltration said:
The abundant lack of intelligence of people who post on this forum just floors me.
The abundant lack of intelligence of people who post on this forum just floors me.
Is this graph about religion? :P
Seriously what is this based on?