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Jedi Equivalent of the 501st Legion?

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Unless I missed something, why isn’t there a equivalent charity group of Jedi and Rebel costumers? I’m about to put myself a Jedi costume together and I visited the 501st website, they do lots of cool stuff that I’d like to do when I do get my costume complete. Anyone else agree?

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The equivalent is the Rebel Legion. www.rebellegion.com

But really there is no equivalent as the 501st do think they are better then everybody and any costume group. And they swear by the term GL preferred costume group. The worst thing for costumers was when George brought the 501st to the rose bowl parade. I know a legion member who's head was so huge after getting to go down and march in that.
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PreludeRM said:

But really there is no equivalent as the 501st do think they are better then everybody and any costume group.


That bears repeating. If I'm not mistaken, there were a few members from the Rebel Legion that were in that parade too, but the lions share of the costumers were 501st members.

I also find it interesting that they were at one time all one group. "The worst thing we ever did was split the rebels out into their own group" - A former 501st LCO.

Whatever you do, do not join the Rebel Legion hoping to get any recognition at events. Time and time again, both groups will show up but the only one you'll hear about is the 501st.
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Is recognition really the thing to be looking for? If it is a charity group, shouldn't the point be charity and not recognition?

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Is recognition really the thing to be looking for? If it is a charity group, shouldn't the point be charity and not recognition?


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Its not the recognition that anybody is looking for. It's the premise of they think just because they have armor they are the bigger fan and they will go and flog that in everybodys face just so they get the recognition. Did you hear anything about the rebel legion helping at the rose bowl parade. Hell No. And if you did it was in a negative remark most likly made by a 501st member. I have know fans that as soon as they join it all goes to their head and they want nothing to do with the "other side", unless it suits their need. But granted I do know others who are not like this. But they seem to be few and far between.
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PreludeRM said:

Did you hear anything about the rebel legion helping at the rose bowl parade. Hell No. And if you did it was in a negative remark most likly made by a 501st member.


Lol, I have actually never really heard anything about either group. I have heard people mention the 501st around here every now and then, and I kind of took them to be like the guys who do Civil War reenactments, only with Stormtroopers. This is the first I heard of them being a charity group.

It is kind of sad that these guys become proud about wearing around armor from a science fiction film. I guess some people find it fun to get with other fans and dress up, but I am not sure if it is anything that can really be bragged about, at least not any more than any other group raising funds for charity.

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the 501st are not a charity group. Yes they attend charity functions and help out but if you look at their site they are a costuming club. with really high standards. Heck I have a friend who has a Jango costume. And they are now arguing about the thread on his shoe if it is screen accurate.
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I don't recall the Rebel Legion ever being part of the 501st. It was started with the help of the 501st' founder Albin Jonson as a separate "good guy" equivalent to the 501st.
Its club charter started out as a copy-and-paste from the 501st charter with the names replaced, but it has evolved since then.

The Rebel Legion is also recognized by Lucasfilm, but you don't hear that as often.
In both clubs, it is the agreement with LFL that requires that all and any proceeds go to charity.

There are some 1700 members worldwide. I get the impression that there are more women in the Rebel Legion than in the 501st, but don't quote me on that.
Membership is not exclusive - if you have the costumes, you can be in all clubs you want as long as you follow the rules.
If you have Clone armor, then you can also have it in the Rebel Legion - until you get order 66. ;) Even the "501st" clone armor is allowed!.
Anakin Skywalker Episode III costumes belong in both clubs, except that in the 501st you must have "Sith eyes" and in the RL you must not.

In some regions, there is very good cooperation between the local RL and 501st units at events. In others, cooperation is not so good.
However ... some garrisons of the 501st have also created a rival detachment, called the "Rebel Command". As far as I have heard, and seen of 501st members in Rebel outfits at events, these do not have as high costuming standards as the Rebel Legion.
The "Rebel Command" is disliked by many Rebel Legion members, as they are often confused, and are bad for the RL's reputation of being a club with only high-quality costumes.

There is also a costuming club called The Jedi Assembly for Jedi. I don't know much of them.
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C3PX said:

Is recognition really the thing to be looking for? If it is a charity group, shouldn't the point be charity and not recognition?


No, it's not, and that's why it's sometimes very difficult to work with the 501st. They often want to make sure they're name is listed, but they don't care about anyone else. If it was more about "Let's make sure both groups names are listed." and less about making sure the 501st name is mentioned/listed, it would be a different story.

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Did you hear anything about the rebel legion helping at the rose bowl parade. Hell No. And if you did it was in a negative remark most likly made by a 501st member.


Well, I personally didn't hear any negative remarks, but I haven't been as active on the RL forums in a LONG time.

I did record the Rose Parade that year though and I do remember not hearing anything about the Rebel Legion. The host announced that it was the 501st which was a costuming group that had volunteered to help Lucas in the parade and also attends charity events. I kinda laughed when I heard it and said "I see nothing's changed."

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the 501st are not a charity group. Yes they attend charity functions and help out but if you look at their site they are a costuming club. with really high standards. Heck I have a friend who has a Jango costume. And they are now arguing about the thread on his shoe if it is screen accurate.


When are they not arguing about screen accuracy? I remember when the Darth Vader licensed costume was released. All hell broke loose on the 501st forums about how it wasn't screen accurate. It was finally decided that they HAD to let it in because it was a licensed costume. There was even a guy wearing one at Comic-Con a few years back that was in the 501st photo. Shit, I've seen arguments myself about people using cardboard for their costumes (the majority didn't like it, even though the costumes looked as good as any other).

Darth Lars said:

I don't recall the Rebel Legion ever being part of the 501st. It was started with the help of the 501st' founder Albin Jonson as a separate "good guy" equivalent to the 501st.
Its club charter started out as a copy-and-paste from the 501st charter with the names replaced, but it has evolved since then.


That might be what he was referring to. Instead of simply integrating the "good guys" into the main group, a separate group was started for the good guys. Unfortunately, the good guys don't get nearly as much press from the 501st. I can tell you this first hand as a formerly active RL member.

Darth Lars said:

However ... some garrisons of the 501st have also created a rival detachment, called the "Rebel Command". As far as I have heard, and seen of 501st members in Rebel outfits at events, these do not have as high costuming standards as the Rebel Legion.
The "Rebel Command" is disliked by many Rebel Legion members, as they are often confused, and are bad for the RL's reputation of being a club with only high-quality costumes.


I wonder why that was even allowed. Seriously, if you want to dress as a Rebel, you should be there representing the Rebel Legion, not a 501st detachment. I know plenty of people that have costumes for both groups and they have no problem dressing up as a Rebel to represent the RL. Of course, those people don't act elite like a lot of the 501st members do.

What's funny about having only Stormtrooper armor is that a lot of times those people will actually get shut out of events because the spots fill up quickly. It's the people that have multiple costumes (stormtrooper, bounty hunter, jedi, etc) that'll end up with a greater chance to go to a certain event because if one group fills up, they can just volunteer to dress as something else.

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There is also a costuming club called The Jedi Assembly for Jedi. I don't know much of them.


There isn't much else to them. They're strictly for Jedi and I don't think they're very active. Anybody with a Jedi costume can also get into the RL, so there's almost no reason for someone to go as a Jedi Assembly member.
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