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Oliver Stone's "W" with Josh Brolin playing George W. Bush

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Go get him Oliver!

Did you guys see the news about this film that is being rushed into production about "W" before his time is up? At first I thought it was a joke. But it's on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1175491/

Josh Brolin ... George W. Bush

Elizabeth Banks ... Laura Bush

Thandie Newton ... Condoleezza Rice

Ioan Gruffudd ... Tony Blair

James Cromwell ... George Herbert Walker Bush

Ellen Burstyn ... Barbara Bush

Jeffrey Wright ... General Colin Powell

Rob Corddry ... Ari Fleischer

"Like a bill being rapidly pushed through legislation, Oliver Stone's film about President George W. Bush is expected to begin shooting within a month with a goal toward being released before the president leaves office next January.


A person close to the film, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because plans were still being formalized, said Stone's W. will begin filming in late April in Shreveport, Louisiana. The Academy Award-winning director only began shopping his script for financing in January, but has quickly captured the interest of investors and Hollywood.
Stone has said that the film, which will focus on the life and presidency of Bush, won't be an anti-Bush polemic, but, as he told Daily Variety, "a fair, true portrait of the man. How did Bush go from being an alcoholic bum to the most powerful figure in the world?"


Representatives for Stone would not confirm reports in Variety and elsewhere about casting decisions because of unfinalized contracts. Expected to play the president is Josh Brolin, who played another Texan in the Coen brothers' Oscar-winning No Country for Old Men.


Expected to portray First Lady Laura Bush is Elizabeth Banks, whose credits include The 40 Year-Old Virgin and the upcoming Zach and Miri Make a Porno.


W. will be Stone's third film dealing with presidential matters, following Nixon and JFK. The filmmaker has been an outspoken critic of the administration's decision to invade Iraq.


A Hollywood firebrand, Stone's films also include the Vietnam sagas Born on the Fourth of July and Platoon, which won four Oscars including best picture and director, and 2006's World Trade Center, about two policemen buried in the rubble of the towers after the Sept. 11 attacks."

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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this movie is from the same guy who did the movie nixon which was overly dramatic one sided, and untrue to historical events.

typical of the lefties.

i'll ovoid this movie like the plague unless it is funny as an accident, kinda like farenheit was lampooning how stupid bush was, before family guy and american dad got in on the act.

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FanFiltration said:


Stone has said that the film, which will focus on the life and presidency of Bush, won't be an anti-Bush polemic, but, as he told Daily Variety, "a fair, true portrait of the man. How did Bush go from being an alcoholic bum to the most powerful figure in the world?"


Fair and true, eh? I highly doubt that. The term "alcoholic bum" already tells me that he'll be twisting the story to put too large of a focus on certain things.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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Yes, calling Bush a drunken spoiled rich kid (who never did an ounce or real work in his life, and who also skipped out and went A.W.O.L. from his military duty) would have been much more accurate.

And Don Knots has made this movie already >>> http://www.dubyamovie.com/large.html

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I'm certainly going to see this one.
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Yes, calling Bush a drunken spoiled rich kid (who never did an ounce or real work in his life, and who also skipped out and went A.W.O.L. from his military duty) would have been much more accurate.


Perhaps to you, but not to an objective mind.

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this movie is from the same guy who did the movie nixon which was overly dramatic one sided, and untrue to historical events.

typical of the lefties.

i'll ovoid this movie like the plague unless it is funny as an accident, kinda like farenheit was lampooning how stupid bush was, before family guy and american dad got in on the act.


You would be better off watching the movie (I didn't say pay for it) and making notes of all the inaccuracies. That way, when people like Arnie try to claim something as fact from the movie, you'll be well armed to dispel the myth.

Of course, that won't matter much I guess. Most of the people that go to see the movie will already have their minds made up and nothing anyone says to dispute the claims in the movie will change their mind. Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 had the same effect and people continue to speak the falsehoods portrayed as facts from those movies.
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More liberal propaganda spewing out of Hollywood.
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lordjedi said:

skyjedi2005 said:

this movie is from the same guy who did the movie nixon which was overly dramatic one sided, and untrue to historical events.

typical of the lefties.

i'll ovoid this movie like the plague unless it is funny as an accident, kinda like farenheit was lampooning how stupid bush was, before family guy and american dad got in on the act.


You would be better off watching the movie (I didn't say pay for it) and making notes of all the inaccuracies. That way, when people like Arnie try to claim something as fact from the movie, you'll be well armed to dispel the myth.

Of course, that won't matter much I guess. Most of the people that go to see the movie will already have their minds made up and nothing anyone says to dispute the claims in the movie will change their mind. Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 had the same effect and people continue to speak the falsehoods portrayed as facts from those movies.

A list of inaccuracies would be helpfull indeed (btw, is there a list for columbine and fahrenheit?)

But I'm seriously interested in this movie. I really like Stone movies like Alexander, Any Given Sunday, Savior, JFK and Born On The 4th Of July.
Besides it's also about the life of Bush as I understand and I like the guy when he's not playing President. It's a fun guy to hang out with.

We'll see if it's propaganda...

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Arnie.d said:

lordjedi said:

skyjedi2005 said:

this movie is from the same guy who did the movie nixon which was overly dramatic one sided, and untrue to historical events.

typical of the lefties.

i'll ovoid this movie like the plague unless it is funny as an accident, kinda like farenheit was lampooning how stupid bush was, before family guy and american dad got in on the act.


You would be better off watching the movie (I didn't say pay for it) and making notes of all the inaccuracies. That way, when people like Arnie try to claim something as fact from the movie, you'll be well armed to dispel the myth.

Of course, that won't matter much I guess. Most of the people that go to see the movie will already have their minds made up and nothing anyone says to dispute the claims in the movie will change their mind. Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 had the same effect and people continue to speak the falsehoods portrayed as facts from those movies.

A list of inaccuracies would be helpfull indeed (btw, is there a list for columbine and fahrenheit?)


Are you kidding me? Simply search Google for "bowling for columbine truth" and "fahrenheit 9/11 truth". Among the hits you'll find these two sites:

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1099142634.shtml

There are many others. Seriously, it's not hard to find sites that show what a bunch of crap both movies were. It's Michael Moore. Everything he does can be taken with a mountain of salt.
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lordjedi said:

Arnie.d said:

lordjedi said:

skyjedi2005 said:

this movie is from the same guy who did the movie nixon which was overly dramatic one sided, and untrue to historical events.

typical of the lefties.

i'll ovoid this movie like the plague unless it is funny as an accident, kinda like farenheit was lampooning how stupid bush was, before family guy and american dad got in on the act.


You would be better off watching the movie (I didn't say pay for it) and making notes of all the inaccuracies. That way, when people like Arnie try to claim something as fact from the movie, you'll be well armed to dispel the myth.

Of course, that won't matter much I guess. Most of the people that go to see the movie will already have their minds made up and nothing anyone says to dispute the claims in the movie will change their mind. Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 had the same effect and people continue to speak the falsehoods portrayed as facts from those movies.

A list of inaccuracies would be helpfull indeed (btw, is there a list for columbine and fahrenheit?)


Are you kidding me? Simply search Google for "bowling for columbine truth" and "fahrenheit 9/11 truth". Among the hits you'll find these two sites:

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1099142634.shtml

There are many others. Seriously, it's not hard to find sites that show what a bunch of crap both movies were. It's Michael Moore. Everything he does can be taken with a mountain of salt.

Sorry. Lazy me didn't do a google search. I didn't know there are so many.
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I honestly cannot stand Michael Moore. The man is... indescribable (of course, by "indescribable" I mean "a lying, leftist, fatass of a douchebag"). On the other hand, JFK is one of my favorite movies of all time. Of course, that deals with stuff that happened almost 25 years before I was born. This will hit a little too close to home for me to get any entertainment value out of it.

By the way, how much fabrication was there in JFK's plot? And was RFK (the movie) a sequel?
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JFK's plot has been described as thought-provoking or myth-provoking depending on what interpretation of the assassination you subscribe to. Naturally.

Personally I think its a shame that Moore often fudges things and gets carried off by entertainment value because the truth within his films gets tossed out with the rest; he occassionally has some very valid things to say.
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The finest most carefully made gourmet dish mixed with shit might as well be pure shit. In the end only shit eaters are going to eat the shit mixed dish. Moore is a retard, it is really sad to see so many people eat his shit dishes. You can't really hide behind the excuse that his films are still valid based on a few honest tidbits surrounded by hyperbole and bending the truth for entertianment values sake. If the honest tidbits in his films are so scandalous, then why do they require stretching for the sake of ticket sales? Just a thought.

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You can't really hide behind the excuse that his films are still valid based on a few honest tidbits surrounded by hyperbole and bending the truth for entertianment values sake. If the honest tidbits in his films are so scandalous, then why do they require stretching for the sake of ticket sales? Just a thought.


Indeed. He kind of brings that on himself. But I also think the reports of "HE'S MAKING STUFF UP!" are highly, highly overblown by opponents looking to discredit the politics he is in favor of.
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The finest most carefully made gourmet dish mixed with shit might as well be pure shit. In the end only shit eaters are going to eat the shit mixed dish. Moore is a retard, it is really sad to see so many people eat his shit dishes. You can't really hide behind the excuse that his films are still valid based on a few honest tidbits surrounded by hyperbole and bending the truth for entertianment values sake. If the honest tidbits in his films are so scandalous, then why do they require stretching for the sake of ticket sales? Just a thought.


You make a great point and good argument! But it works the same on all sides of every single political and social issue. Your "shit mixed dish" analogy is exactly how lots of folks feel about the Bush administration's reasons for going to war. There is so much bullshit in the mix that like many people, I can't take any of his justifications for the Iraq war seriously, or as you put it, "eat his shit dishes". Most people in America on all sides of the political spectrum eat up bullshit because it's what they want to believe, not taking the time to try and filter fact from fiction at all. And it's not going to change anytime soon. There is no pure truth out there, and one must go above and beyond one or two media, religious, political, education, or entertainment sources to form a logical perspective of issues. It's human nature to accept what makes you feel good without question, and most people in the public eye use that to their political advantage.

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You make a great point and good argument! But it works the same on all sides of every single political and social issue. Your "shit mixed dish" analogy is exactly how lots of folks feel about the Bush administration's reasons for going to war. There is so much bullshit in the mix that like many people, I can't take any of his justifications for the Iraq war seriously, or as you put it, "eat his shit dishes". Most people in America on all sides of the political spectrum eat up bullshit because it's what they want to believe, not taking the time to try and filter fact from fiction at all. And it's not going to change anytime soon. There is no pure truth out there, and one must go above and beyond one or two media, religious, political, education, or entertainment sources to form a logical perspective of issues. It's human nature to accept what makes you feel good without question, and most people in the public eye use that to their political advantage.


Agreed on all points.

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Rob Corddry ... Ari Fleischer


That's GOT to be a joke.


I think that is the best casting choice in the film!

Look at the casting of "Natural Born Killers". Very diverse and in a way spot on in every aspect. Rodney Dangerfield was so out of his normal typecasted role, but at the same time kicked ass in the part of the abusive pedifile father. To me, Ari Fleischer had a slime ball / used car salesman quality about him, and Corddry has played that type very well on the daily show.

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Very true. But he's so good on the Daily show its hard for me to look at him without laughing. So to take anything he says seriously...

But on the other hand when Ari would do those press conferences it was hard to take anything he said seriously too. Ha!

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Oliver Stone's films are irrelevant.

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Oliver Stone has never been the same since JFK, as he went from a great director to a guy who just puts out historically inaccurate movies.

Platoon is one of the greatest war movies ever put on screen, Wall Street is a compelling movie about the Stock Market, Born on the 4th of July is Tom Cruises best role, and The Doors was really entertaining being a Jim Morrison Fan.

JFK is full of lies and half-truths that a whole young generation of kids believe is true, and the rest of his stuff since then is pretty crappy, as it seems that Stone has an agenda in almost every movie he does now.

Whether you like GW Bush or not, I guarantee this movie will play loosely with the facts, and end up being just some hit job that looks totally political.
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It's also kind of interesting that Stone is no longer as militantly liberal as he was even ten years ago. Case in point: World Trade Center, which to me seems to focus not on the conspiracies but on the impact of 9/11, and it seems that W is going to be in the same vein as WTC.
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An early draft of Oliver Stone's Bush, the life story of our 43rd president, has been leaked to ABC and is garnering attention from various news outlets. Not to be outdone, Slate has acquired a copy of the screenplay, dated October 15, 2007, and titled Bush, though IMDB now lists the working title as W. In Stone's words, the film asks: "How did Bush go from being an alcoholic bum to the most powerful figure in the world?"

The screenplay, written by Stanley Weiser, plays up the rivalry between W. and his father, suggests at least one conspiracy theory, and dramatizes W.'s near-fatal encounter with a pretzel in 2002. But compared with Stone's paranoid take on the JFK assassination, the script lacks imagination. For the most part, it trots out well-known Bushisms ("I'm the decider," "shock and awe," "is our children learning," and "axis of evil") and seems content to re-create equally well-known events from Bush's presidency (pressuring George Tenet to produce actionable intelligence on Iraq, proclaiming "mission accomplished" on the USS Lincoln).

Spoiler alert: Bush gets the intelligence he needs, but the mission isn't quite accomplished. If you're not averse to a few other spoilers, follow Slate's handy guide straight to the good parts.

http://www.slate.com/id/2188423/

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I'm so tired of people caring about Bush. Bush jokes in '08 are about as funny as Carrot Top. It's like making fun of a retarded kid for 7 years straight. I can't wait for Bush to leave office, only for the fact that Patton Oswalt can move on with his career, and get back to being funny.

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