sunday256 said:

Several posters in this thread have lumped OOT fans (members of this board in particular) together in saying this will be (essentially) crap, or is crap. You know what? Maybe it will be, but lets remember..Lucas made these for kids back in 77. He's making them for kids in 2008. If you don't like it, that's fine. You don't have to watch it. If you've got kids, either show it to them or don't.

I'll be watching it personally, whether it's crap or not because I love all of the Star Wars movies. I enjoy them all. It's cool if you guys don't. I just hope some of you will be more respectful of fans that frequent these forums that have a middle of the road attitude towards the rest of the non-OOT SW universe. I suppose I can't ask for anything more than that. Just, please, don't lump us all together. Take more responsibility for your own opinions and not of others. I'm not trying to be arguementive...well..ok...maybe I am. ;) But I'm trying not to be rude or judgemental about others opinions. I would like to be respectful and constructive. and hopefully, you guys can see that.

I agree Sunday that anyone who demeans someone for liking anything that is SW related has to understand that everyone has different tastes.

But I will have to respectfully disagree with you about SW always being made for kids, it wasn't made for kids, it was targeted towards teenagers back in 1977. I also saw SW in '77, so I understand the cultural phenomenon it was that year.

If you remember SW was marketed at Comic-con, and that group is not a bunch of 8 year old kids, they are teenagers, or highschoolers, and if you watch SW & ESB, that is what those movies are marketed too. But the great thing about those movies, is that kids like us back in 1977 & 1980 could still enjoy the movies, even though some of the stuff went right over our heads.

ROTJ is where Lucas started marketing the movies towards kids, because essentially ESB was too dark for kids my age, I was 8 in 1980. And when ESB did not make as much as SW at the box office, and Lucas realized he had a gold mine with merchandising, he didn't want SW to be what essentially movies series like The Terminator and the The Matrix became: PG-13 movies that were made for teenagers and adults that kids DID NOT see at the theater.

Sunday, I loved ROTJ back in '83, and thought it was 10 times better then ESB, and now 20 years later, I think the opposite. And because of people like me, SW changed to be a bunch of movie geared towards teenagers/adults that kids can enjoy, to movies geared toward kids that teenagers/adults can enjoy.

Sunday, you have to admit there is a huge difference in tone between SW/ESB and the other 4 movies that came out after? And this Clone War series will be more like the latter 4 movies. Just watch the cave scene again in ESB, there hasn't been anything in a SW movie that resembles that scene in terms of foreshadowing and letting the viewer figure the scene out for themselves, as everything is essentially spoonfed to the viewer after ESB. You go from Yoda in ESB, "Remember you failure at the cave." where the viewer has to figure out what the hell just happened to Luke when he supposedly met Vader to Anakin in ROTS, "My powers have doubled since we last met Count!" To telling the viewer the exact amount of powers he has gained since the last movie!

Sunday, I love the OT, and I can enjoy the PT cause it is still SW, but I am not going to lie and say there isn't a different tone from ROTJ on in the series. And that is because it wasn't always marketed to kids.