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Davnes007 said:

--Adding a planet to the scenes with the rebel fleet at the end of the movie...
----> That would retract from the sad-lonely feeling of the scene.

The word you're looking for is detract, but I completely agree with you. I couldn't figure out why I objected to this potential addition, but you've hit it on the head. The ending of Empire is one of my favourite parts in the entire series.

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--Shots of the X-Wing inside the Dagobah atmosphere (from outside)
----> That would ruin the 'reveal', and the mystery of Dagobah

We already have a couple external shots of R2D2, but I agree we don't need more. It's not so much a matter of ruining the reveal, but lessening the claustrophobia and tension in the scene.

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--I'd sure like to see those Tauntauns running a bit faster; the stop-motion makes it all look like big steps, slow speed.
----> Also sounds nice.

--Maybe you should test out animating CGI characters to replace the stop-motion tauntaun shots.... just a concept, lol. Could maybe prepare you for ROTJ (especially if you will want to add extra Ewoks there lol)
----> I think there are already enough Ewoks in ROTJ.

I think all the Tauntauns need is the Cantina treatment for the close-ups and motion smoothing (shouldn't be too hard) to remove the stop-motion juddering.

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DGC General X said:

I always thought the reveal of the Imperial Fleet should be above Corusant. I thought it would be a good way to incorperate the core planet of the saga into the classic films.

It seems like a very interesting Idea. What are you guys thinking about it?
wise you must be.
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Darth Wagner said:

DGC General X said:

I always thought the reveal of the Imperial Fleet should be above Corusant. I thought it would be a good way to incorperate the core planet of the saga into the classic films.

It seems like a very interesting Idea. What are you guys thinking about it?


I must admit I like this idea as well. It feels strange not to see it at all until the finale.
Adding the blue planet below the death star in Ep 4 made those shots much more dynamic in my opinion.
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stossmo said:

Darth Wagner said:

DGC General X said:

I always thought the reveal of the Imperial Fleet should be above Corusant. I thought it would be a good way to incorperate the core planet of the saga into the classic films.

It seems like a very interesting Idea. What are you guys thinking about it?


I must admit I like this idea as well. It feels strange not to see it at all until the finale.
Adding the blue planet below the death star in Ep 4 made those shots much more dynamic in my opinion.


But if Vader was obsessed with finding young Skywalker, and was presumably out looking for him, why would he be hanging out at Coruscant?
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Sluggo said:

stossmo said:

Darth Wagner said:

DGC General X said:

I always thought the reveal of the Imperial Fleet should be above Corusant. I thought it would be a good way to incorperate the core planet of the saga into the classic films.

It seems like a very interesting Idea. What are you guys thinking about it?


I must admit I like this idea as well. It feels strange not to see it at all until the finale.
Adding the blue planet below the death star in Ep 4 made those shots much more dynamic in my opinion.


But if Vader was obsessed with finding young Skywalker, and was presumably out looking for him, why would he be hanging out at Coruscant?



You have a point there sluggo. It slipped my mind. Maybe we don't need a planet there. There is nothing wrong just being in deep space.

 

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I do remember the imperials saying something about the rebel fleet amassing near Sullust... I don't really see anything wrong with adding a planet somewhere in the background, far away...
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yeah, I can see that point. I thought that since the SD that sends the successful probe droid to hoth is off on its own maybe coruscant is the base of operations and all of the SD's are reporting in to the SSD. It could be a 'where's skywalker' conference.

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A New Hope was always going to be the film that if revamped, would be more so then Empire or Jedi. Empire is a perfect film, or at least 99.9% so. I don't think anyone should add something just for the sake of doing so. Then this becomes just another fan edit, which I don't think Anywan's New Hope cut is.

I'm of the mind that A New Hope badly needed a tweak post Special Edition, and got it thanks to Anywan. Jedi almost as much. Empire is a trickier animal.

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Are we talking about adding a planet to where the Imperial fleet is out looking for Luke or the rebel fleet at the end of ESB? The mention of the rebel fleet massing near Sullust takes place towards the end of ROTJ and doesn't really need to be seen in ESB, imho.
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How about if ADY just does Jedi first.....then there will be a huge list of actual things to fix.....how he is going to fix the ewok problem I don"t know.....Empire is decent the way it is when watching the entire saga now.....but ANH was hard to swallow(although great now with ADY's help), and ROTJ is way out there....So if he does Empire now, we won't be able to watch the entire saga with admiration until 2012ish. If he did Jedi now, we could watch the entire saga happily by around 2010.....and then very happily(after he tweaks Empire) by 2012. I know he won't do this, but you guys know it's true....peace!
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sgdelta1771 said:

I do remember the imperials saying something about the rebel fleet amassing near Sullust... I don't really see anything wrong with adding a planet somewhere in the background, far away...


Well, that quote is in ROTJ, which takes place almost a year after ESB ends. So they're probably not massing near Sullust for that whole time.
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I'm currently trying to read the ENTIRE original Star Wars Revisited thread, and I just got to the Aurebesh discussion. I'm glad you went with Aurebesh in your edit, since it is clearly seen and easily translated in TPM. Are you planning on replacing the gibberish while R2 is talking to Luke on the way to Dagobah and in ROTJ while the shuttle is being scanned?

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posted by gavin77:

"How about if ADY just does Jedi first.....then there will be a huge list of actual things to fix.....how he is going to fix the ewok problem I don"t know.....Empire is decent the way it is when watching the entire saga now.....but ANH was hard to swallow(although great now with ADY's help), and ROTJ is way out there....So if he does Empire now, we won't be able to watch the entire saga with admiration until 2012ish. If he did Jedi now, we could watch the entire saga happily by around 2010.....and then very happily(after he tweaks Empire) by 2012. I know he won't do this, but you guys know it's true....peace!"

I have to say that I kinda agree with this. Aside from a few annoyances, I'm fine with ESB as it is. Now, ROTJ, on the other hand, is a completely different story...
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I think the Ewok problem in ROTJ could be fixed by replacing them with Chewbacca's race or putting them more in the background and having Chewbacca's race help them out maybe?

However, for Empire I recommend the Empire have Hoth surrounded except in the few areas where we see the rebels attempt to escape. I also think there should be at least some Rebel ships in space get blown up by the Empire as well. Although I don't think it likely ...

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Although that would be preferable, it would surely be hell for ady to do that.

I would be happy if he cut some of the most silly instances of ewoks somehow beating storm troopers with rocks and sticks and (if possible) re-edited the battle somewhat to show more ewoks getting killed by the imperials.

IMo, it should feel as if the rebels are loosing, until Chewbacca & co take over the scout walker. The way they defeat the walkers is fine, its how weak the stormies are that bothers me.
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eriktice said:

I think the Ewok problem in ROTJ could be fixed by replacing them with Chewbacca's race or putting them more in the background and having Chewbacca's race help them out maybe?

However, for Empire I recommend the Empire have Hoth surrounded except in the few areas where we see the rebels attempt to escape. I also think there should be at least some Rebel ships in space get blown up by the Empire as well. Although I don't think it likely ...




So, how exactly would he be able to insert a race of Wookiees into the Endor battle?? And, errr, you're kinda missing the point of the Ewoks.


This thread is seriously becoming a fanboys wet dream. Do this, he should do that. There's only so much a person can do with the material given, try and remember that.

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Come on, we can all get together on a weekend, rent a bunch of Wookiee costumes, and shoot some green-screen!! :)

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Sometimes, I wish we could fix some of these adults only SW egos, pertaining the the Ewoks, the whole point of that race is that is a race you'd never expect able to rise up and hold their own with the Empire, and the fact that some people think the Ewoks are cute should not make the Ewoks be deleted from SW. I was 8 when first ROTJ came out I didn't have problems with them in the the film and while growing up and I didn't know I was "supposed to hate the Ewoks" until I saw an article in Scifi Universe magazine when I was in my early 20s. If anything, maybe Ady can add more Ewoks! I don't care if you have helmet on, if you get hit in the head by a five or ten pound rock you are likely going down.

I think some SW fans get adults only-egotistical in their teenage or adult years, they want things to be more adult which means darkness and everything all danky. Stuff they never would have wanted as a young kid watching SW for the first time. Maybe it makes them feel more grown-up that way. I just can't understand why they can't tolerate the cute with the ugly and scary, there is room for a diverse groups of aliens, cute, ugly, scary, etc. Star Wars has them all. I want it to stay that way.
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And after all that talk from Yoda in ESB about judging things by their size, people are still doing just that with the Ewoks.

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I would never compare Yoda, The Jedi Master, to little fury teddy bears...ewoks.

I don't hate ewoks, they are knid of cute, etc....but I have always been bothered by the fact that a teddy bear can smack an Imperial Stormtrooper on the head with a little rock and the heavily battle armoured trooper can go down for the count.

It kind of diminishes the strength of the jedi and rebel forces that have fought against such troopers for so long. I think to myself if that teddy bear just took that stormtrooper down like that, then what OB-1, Mace Windu, and rebel forces, etc. did was rather easy and wussy when they defeated such soldiers.

Just my opinion, and if you don't agree that's ok.......by the way, we should probably get this thread back on track, "Empire Strikes Back", because that is what brother Adywan will be working on next contrary to some of our wishes.....peace.
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The ewoks could perhaps have won on strenght of numbers, since there were a few hundred strormies at most against maybe 10 000 ewoks or more.

But what bothers me is not only how easily they go down, but how few ewoks die. We se 2, maybe 3, ewoks die and that's it. Meanwhile all the stormies die.

For instance: the scout walkers keep missing the ewoks for the most part, but when Chewie takes over it and aimes for the imperials, he's suddenly able to hit one every time.

The imperials have superior firearms. I'm fine with them loosing to the ewoks, but the ewoks should suffer heavy causulties. And less points in the battle should be played for laughts. I don't know how ady would do this, but it would make the film a lot better IMO.
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Yeah, maybe more Ewoks should be added showing how great their numbers were, and also somehow show more Ewok casualties.
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ron2112 said:

Come on, we can all get together on a weekend, rent a bunch of Wookiee costumes, and shoot some green-screen!! :)

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That was a joke!!

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guitarfan01 said:

sgdelta1771 said:

I do remember the imperials saying something about the rebel fleet amassing near Sullust... I don't really see anything wrong with adding a planet somewhere in the background, far away...


Well, that quote is in ROTJ, which takes place almost a year after ESB ends. So they're probably not massing near Sullust for that whole time.


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