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Chrille
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STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
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26-Feb-2008, 7:44 PM
I'm glad to hear that you've already made the changes, Adywan, thanks for listening. I'm also glad your leaving Kenobi's dialogue alone. I'm constantly dumbfounded how many people want to make drastic changes to the OT so it's more in line with the PT. The PT is the fucked up trilogy, not the OT. If drastic changes are going to be made to the story, they should be made to the PT so it flows more evenly with the OT.

Changing "the" to "a" it not a drastic change. It's just one word.

But I know what you mean otherwise. When possible, the PT should be altered instead of the OT. Of course, in this case changing TPM instead will mean one hell of a lot more of work for adywan than just changing one word. But if he's cool with that, I'm fine either way.

Wow, I never thought someone else though about that, I always thought that Obi-Wan should have been a knight/master at the start of TPM and Qui-Gon either be a friend he went to Naboo with or ran into at the temple and make the story of Obi-wan in the PT flow more accurately with what he says in RoTJ: "when I first knew him he was already a great pilot.....I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi" if we picture this line disregarding the PT, it would appear that Obi-wan met a young hot-shot pilot (18 or 20 years old) in one of his adventures and and was impressed with Anakin's ability and Force attunement, and he "took it upon himself" to train him disregarding what Yoda said, which in turn makes him more like Qui-Gon in certain ways. If we follow this train of thought the rebelious "hot shot" attitude of *that* Anakin would make him more suitable to the phrase "Vader was seduced by the dark side" as in Anakin would exhibit rebelious and adventure-seeking behavior and be seduced by the promise of more power. This scenario makes it difficult for Padme to appear as well as other things in the current PT, but makes the whole saga flow as a whole, without white lies and racionalizations.


Anakin couldn't have been 18-20, because Luke was roughtly that age in ESB according to Yoda, and Yoda called him "too old to begin the training". That means that even in the OT, Jedi were envisoned to start their traning at a fearly young age. Probably no older than 15 at the very least.

Lucas's first story ideas for The Phantom Menace included Obi-Wan finding Anakin on Tatooine. Qui-Gon was a Jedi friend that Obi-Wan met later at Coruscant. Lucas apparantly disregarded this plot idea because he didn't want the young Anakin to se Obi-Wan as a father figure, since they are more like brothers. Qui-Gon then stepped in to become Anakin's "father" for a brief period.

Even though I like the idea of Qui-Gon finding Anakin, I must say that I would prefer if Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were friends in TPM rather than Master/Padawan. It could be sort of like Obi-Wan and Anakin's friendship in ROTS.

But ady has a lot of work to do if he wants to do this. All refernces to Obi-Wan being a padawan, getting knighted by Yoda, every single time he calls Qui-Gon "master" (which is a lot) needs to be edited out of the movie for this idea to work. But I must admit it is very interesting.