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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
Indiana Jones IV — Page 12
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In previous IJ movies, The Ark "works as Wunderwaffe" and the Grail gives immortality. The Nazis from the film want these objects as they could make their armies invincible. That's the plot.
In the upcoming IJ4 Soviets want the myserious skull for... for what? What does it do? I'm sure they don't want to simply put it into some museum in Moscow. The skull clearly looks not human (humanoid - yes, but not human). The title says "the kingdom of the crystal skull", so the whole thing is about the place where the skull comes from. The place where you can find alien lookin skull may contain other artifacts. Artifacts of similar origin.
Alien technology. Soviets want to capture ancient alien tech. This will be the surprise behind IJ4 plot.
Stargate, anyone? I liked that movie (but not what followed it), but I don't want IJ series become yet another UFO-centered flick. X-Files fans have enough content everywhere, please keep IJ movies free of such bull****, it totally ruins the style, the look&feel, the... "that elusive thing certain unique things have".
And to think that I considered Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis plot to be slightly "over the top" in terms of realism...
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Originally posted by: C3PX
but that would be a huge leap from the Indiana Jones style that is known and loved.
but that would be a huge leap from the Indiana Jones style that is known and loved.
Wasn't the Prequel Trilogy a huge leap from the original STAR WARS Trilogy style that is known and loved?
Reading (only right now) IJ4 producer Frank Marshall's explanations only confirmed my suspicions. Mark my words...
Remember, there are Soviet soldiers out there, not just archeologists. Military expedition wouldn't be sent to collect just some rare and expensive ancient items. There has to be ancient uber technology in the movie, and since the movie producer himself hints that they may come from aliens...
EDIT: OK, "Google is your friend":
speculations or major spoilers?
Although I wanted to boycott the movie, deep in my heart I wished to see it, if only for the purpose of having something to rant about. But if this is true, if Indiana is really meeting aliens in that flick, then I'm skipping it. Seriously.
Time to hit them where it hurts most. I've wasted enough money to buy Lucas' merchandise, all those tapes, books, CDs, games, posters, model kits, be it Star Wars of Indiana Jones. I'm a dissatisfied customer now. Not only I never received any "loyality program points" for those, but the quality of the present products is far less than I expect. I guess after 20+ years of Star Wars I need a break.
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Maybe they will attempt to discredit the religious artifacts that showed up in the previous two films, by saying that the Ark of the Covenant and its power were not from God but from aliens, and the healing power of the Holy Grail was simply more alien technology. That is why they are in the warehouse searching for the Ark, so they can use it for clues to find the alien colonies on earth from which these "magical" artifacts came from. Perhaps this film will provide a sci-fi rationalization of the supernatural events of the previous three films. But I am pretty sure this is nowhere near, I honestly can't believe it would sink that far. Perhaps if George had complete creative control, but as it is he has plenty of people to keep him in check. I just hope in the future I will be able to admit to liking the Indiana Jones movies without being snickered at. Anybody else remember the days when you could tell somebody that Star Wars is a cool movie without having them roll their eyes at you?
EDIT: Pretty sure that "speculations or major spoilers?" link RRS posted is completely made up.
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Originally posted by: C3PX
surely it cannot be as bad as it sounds.
surely it cannot be as bad as it sounds.
IT CAN BE, AND DON'T CALL ME SHIRLY.
"I'VE GROWN TIRED OF ASKING, SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME..."
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Spielberg is involved, I must have more faith in Mr. Spielberg than that...
Spielberg is involved, I must have more faith in Mr. Spielberg than that...
Ahem...
Well...
...have you seen the "A.I."? It was OK for me until I got to the ending... and AFAIK this was Spielberg's idea...
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LOOKS A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN THE PROP THEY ARE USING IN THE MOVIE DOESN'T IT ???
"I'VE GROWN TIRED OF ASKING, SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME..."
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE WAREHOUSE IN RAIDERS.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE WAREHOUSE IN RAIDERS.
It is....
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Indiana 'Henry' Jones Jnr: "Hey guys, check it out - we're in the warehouse from the end of the first film.. Cool huh? Oh hey, there's Marion, who featured in one of my earlier adventures. I'm getting too old for this shit! Haha, That was a joke about my age."
ET (Indy's new sidekick): Phooone hooome
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Dialogue from the new indy film:
Indiana 'Henry' Jones Jnr: "Hey guys, check it out - we're in the warehouse from the end of the first film.. Cool huh? Oh hey, there's Marion, who featured in one of my earlier adventures. I'm getting too old for this shit! Haha, That was a joke about my age."
ET (Indy's new sidekick): Phooone hooome
Dialogue from the new indy film:
Indiana 'Henry' Jones Jnr: "Hey guys, check it out - we're in the warehouse from the end of the first film.. Cool huh? Oh hey, there's Marion, who featured in one of my earlier adventures. I'm getting too old for this shit! Haha, That was a joke about my age."
ET (Indy's new sidekick): Phooone hooome
Rambo: "Hey yo! I'm Rambo! I'm here to help Indy. Let me get my supercharged machinegungrenadelauncherpistolglock. thubba thubba thubba"
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Indy: I hate commies. They're rough and course. And they get in everywhere.
Agent Irina Spalko: Not mee. I'mmm soffft. Ahnd smoooooth.
Indy: From my perspective all commies are evil.
Agent Irina Spalko: Vee could keep eet a seeecret.
Marion Ravenwood: Indiana Jones! I cannot think that it has come to this. That you would be making romantic interludes to the villain when I am back after all these years. Sallah was right. You have changed. You are taking me to a place that I cannot go. You are teaching me contractions that I cannot use. You are breaking my heart!
Indy: LIAR! Wait, what is this scene about again? You can type this shit but you can't say it.
George Lucas: Cut! Faster! More Intense!!!
Steven Spielberg: I'm still the director. Get the fuck off my set, George.
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Originally posted by: HotRod
Woah! They're bringing . . . ::looks up name on imdb:: Karen Allen's character back? (Sorry, I haven't read this thread yet.) That is one really neat move. She's still a very pretty woman too. That is at least one thing that makes me excited for this film. (Otherwise I don't have my hopes up too high.)
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Not the best quality...but hey
LINKY
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QUICKTIME VERSION....
TRAILER
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I dunno, I still have a bad feeling about this.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
I dunno, I still have a bad feeling about this.
I dunno, I still have a bad feeling about this.
So do I, but it's immaterial. This is going to make shitloads of money regardless. The trailer is actually pretty cool, but we'll see...
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OK, folks, there's no "alien plot" here, it's just a meteo balloon, now move along, move along...
Damn, why do I have to be always right when it comes to bad things? I wish I was wrong...
IJ4 will be just what Prequel Trilogy is to Star Wars... we see a trailer, get enthusiastic because we hear music we know so well, the movie makes money - "so why are those people complaining?".
It won't go above "Lara Croft" or "National Treasure" level in terms of quality... which is way below old IJ movies.
How did I accomplish that (considering my age) is my secret...