Originally posted by: Fuser
lol - I forgot there was a battle droid to find too! I havent found George yet - though I was looking for old George...
Ady - the flipper: initially I admit it 'threw me' as it looked really odd - but I think that is because I wasnt expecting it.
I've quickly flicked back a few frames though and it is pigfacedude pointing the blaster - which then ends up on the floor. Its obviously a fault with the original - they must have forgotten who was supposed to be shooting - but if you look at the sequence of events, it is the human who gives Luke some stick, then he throws Luke to the floor and brings out a blaster, Obi-Wan lights up and swings, and it is the human who falls back first. So really, it should be his arm on the floor I reckon!
I think maybe I'm getting too anal here, but I just got out the novelisation which reads "the man found himself lying prone against the bar, moaning and whimpering as he stared at the stump of an arm"
I'm afraid I think the only totally correct solution here would be somehow to have the humans arm down there. But even the gun on the floor doesnt match the one that was drawn. And frankly, I really dont think it matters. As you've pointed out, the flipper now matches what was seen earlier - and the cauterised stump makes far more sense.
All the advice I would offer is this - if it bothers YOU, change it. If not - leave it!
I think making the flipper look more like it did in the early Cantina cut (from the Behind the Magic CD-ROM) would be the best.
At least it looked more like a hand (a rubber mitten, the same type of flipper you see, but tilted slightly, so you can see that it's flat, without creating the illusion that it's a sphere of gray-green rubber at the end of the stump) that could hold something (though pulling the trigger is another matter). Sure, the human hand would be most realistic, but ady is dead set on putting Ponda Boba's hand in there (it's the orange sleeves!). The shot doesn't look as good as it could, and on that we agree. I think we all knew he was going to replace it, so we just want it to look the best it can! He shortened the sleeve and added some smoke (that looks kinda fakey, now that I think about it, like one of those home-made fake videos about somebody getting their hand cut off by a saber, the smoke is too thick and white or doesn't move realistically, I don't know, but the smoke is just a touch, the real problem is the way the flipper looks on "camera").
Agreed about the feedback. Ady wouldn't have to ask for feedback. He could have just posted his edit and that would have been it. Why even bother with the forums? Though it's his call, he does care somewhat about what people think or notice, or he wouldn't bother being here. Most of the people here don't seem to mind too much if the release is delayed somewhat (even if we all really want it "right here, right now" delivered in a big shiny box, heh), if it means it will be that much more improved, as it's already had so many delays. People are excited and hope he leaps immediately into ESB and ROTJ, but again, that's up to him (do I really have the patience to wait two more years to see the fixed Rancor/sabers/emperor's slugs/matte boxes corrected w/out Hayden, "Wesa Fwee!" and the bad colors? yikes! still, if somebody is doing it, that's cool with me).
But adywan isn't lacking in the support department. At best one or two people bad mouthed him and there's over a hundred pages of positive comments on here. There's people who will say he's awesome and love whatever he puts out. But many have made suggestions, and overall he's been positive in return to the constructive feedback and put a bunch of people from here in the credits! That's cool. So please, the people who fell they need to protect him from constructive feedback, don't worry. Notice how easily he can say "no" to people and shut them down if he disagrees with their ideas. The delays were due to his own initiative (or hardware failures), not because he got discouraged from somebody making too many suggestions or phrasing them wrong (I admit though, the "prima donna developer" is a perennial problem on the internet... many creative people seem to have fragile egos... but ady is above that).
The NTSC DVD-9 is still "many weeks away" (a month (?) after the other DVD's which are "weeks away") so I for one don't mind waiting if it'll be better. Right now the Panda hand is the one edit that stands out as "hey, look at me, I'm different, but not quite believable!" The wolfman hand may be "wrong" but it looks better, much more natural. So.... good luck!