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Not bad. Now might be a good time to jump on.
Not bad. Now might be a good time to jump on.
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 127
Not bad. Now might be a good time to jump on.
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Originally posted by: corellian77
Quick question:
I'm downloading this via torrent, but took a peek at Usenet.com after reading some of the posts earlier.
I'm tempted to join due to the extreme difference in download speed, but do all newsgroups require you to pay for the service? Any free ones out there? (Yes, I know I'm cheap...)
Quick question:
I'm downloading this via torrent, but took a peek at Usenet.com after reading some of the posts earlier.
I'm tempted to join due to the extreme difference in download speed, but do all newsgroups require you to pay for the service? Any free ones out there? (Yes, I know I'm cheap...)
Well giganews are doing a 3 day free trial at the moment which allows you to download up to 10gb
Free 3 day Giganews Trial
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“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars.” – Bill Moyers
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Originally posted by: frendon
OMG, Ady you rock!!, I'm off to watch it all right now, but I had to skip to the end to see this, I can't express how happy you made me, lol.
OMG, Ady you rock!!, I'm off to watch it all right now, but I had to skip to the end to see this, I can't express how happy you made me, lol.
Hey! My name is in there too!!
Coolness.
Downloading the torrent and I'll be sure to try to seed it too. It'll be a day before it finishes anyways heh
Is it not sad that in this time, we are more surprised by acts of love than acts of hate?
-Me
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EDIT: Speak of the devil. The instant I post this, the torrent starts connecting again.
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Originally posted by: vbangle
I wonder what the cast members would think about LFL's SE effort compared to this..... waves and impact indeed.
Originally posted by: MoveAlong
Well, earlier this afternoon I had the feelings I wanted to have 11 years ago when watching an "SE"... THAT'S what I wanted 10 years ago!...
Well, earlier this afternoon I had the feelings I wanted to have 11 years ago when watching an "SE"... THAT'S what I wanted 10 years ago!...
I wonder what the cast members would think about LFL's SE effort compared to this..... waves and impact indeed.
very e.x.c.i.t.e.d... can't wait to download this. I might even butter up some popcorn...
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THE new Death Star schematics made my jaw drop!!!
My jaw hit the floor when the new Tie fighters swarmed in!!!!
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Seriously though, I want to join the other gushers for a minute and say fantastic job.
Now that I've seen the whole thing, the parts that really stand out as improved over either special edition are the tie battles and the saber battle. The Alderaan explosion looks very cool, and I thought the DS explosion would be cheesy but it was still effective.
There is one part I didn't like though. Sure a few creative changes I disagreed with but could handle (I thought I would HATE the prequel music insertions and the Imperial march, but they were used sparingly and well... the music edit for Obi-Wan's death was slightly less effective, but I could deal with it; the missing Jabba scene, well I realize why you took it out, it's too much work to fix and deserves to be a deleted scene for curiosity, nothing more) but this next item... ugh, it just looked bad (and I say that considering the high quality of virtually every other change).
The "flipper" from Ponda Boba. I had to pause and take a look at it. I imagine someone seeing this for the first time would be like "wtf am I looking at?" making the shot a distraction. It's like an orange tube with a half inflated gray balloon at the end. It doesn't look like anything that could hold a gun, much less like an actual appendage. Sure, wolfman's hand was out of place, but at least it looked like a hand and the blood made it perfectly clear that this was a severed limb that Obi-Wan must have cut off, in the quick action seconds before.
I guess you could take a look at the "lost scene" of the Cantina to get a glimpse of what the flipper is supposed to look like. Perhaps it needs more curvature and a thumb to make it look more like an alien hand? Something. The shot just looks crappy. No offense...
But beyond THAT, the rest of the shots look seemless, and amazing. It's hard to believe that the amateur tech of today looks as good as the Lucasfilm tech of 11 years ago!
Great job. Now if you could just fix the spelling errors and the cut off hand on the DVD, this would truly be a masterpiece!
PS: I didn't see the battle droid or George Lucas yet, but that's okay, I wasn't looking hard.
PPS: It was "Lord Darth Vader" in the credits originally, but I realize you must have changed it to be in keeping with "Darth" as a Sith title in the prequels, rather than his first name.
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"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
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Anyway, I use media player classic, and slowing it down one tick makes it look like the original speed to me.
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The "flipper" from Ponda Boba. I had to pause and take a look at it. I imagine someone seeing this for the first time would be like "wtf am I looking at?" making the shot a distraction. It's like an orange tube with a half inflated gray balloon at the end. It doesn't look like anything that could hold a gun, much less like an actual appendage. Sure, wolfman's hand was out of place, but at least it looked like a hand and the blood made it perfectly clear that this was a severed limb that Obi-Wan must have cut off, in the quick action seconds before.
But the flipper hand looked exactly how Ponda's looked in all the other scenes, just because we don't see exactly how he gets a good grip on the blaster, doesn't mean he cannot.
Ady did well and it looked pretty convincing to me. I do not agree about it looking bad.
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To fix the problem, just view it from the side instead of from the top and it's easier to tell it's a hand (mitten shaped, rather than appearing like a ball).
This is honest criticism... I'm sure he wanted feedback. Anyway, that was the one downside of this release for me.
PS: Here is what it looked like originally (pre-1977):
Tilt it a little more to the side and you'll have what I'm getting at. It's just a little too round and undefined like a blob, currently.
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I'm gonna grab some booze and some munchies then it'll be lights down, curtain up.
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As for Ponda Baba's arm, i modelled the had from all the sources available and i kept it true to the original. This edit was just for the fans and i'm not really bothered if it confuses people when see the flipper. it is there to correct a mistake and the original hand sticks out like a sore thumb to me knowing that he had a flipper (that can be seen clearly in other shots). As for the blood, the saber cortorizes the wound so there would be no blood. here's a snapshot from the holiday special that shows his flipper, even though the colouring is different to that in ANH because of the lighting:
It was originally changed to the wolf hand because of the original flipper not being able to hold a gun and might confuse the audience but as i said it's there for the fans who know what it should look like. I might tweak it slightly for the DVD but i can't change the angle. I have to keep it at the angle it originally was due to the other elements in the shot.
and it wasn't "Lord" Darth Vader in the special edition credits so i haven't changed anything there
I knew that the changes i made wouldn't please everyone but this was originally just for me and it's exactly the way i wanted it . Oh my god i have turned into George Lucas.
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I assumed it was PAL because I thought people were saying the previously released clips were PAL.My bad on Vader's title... so it was changed in 1997 to just "Darth Vader" (credits were unchanged in 2004).
If it could just be a little less round, like in the shot above, that's what I'm saying. The hands may have that bulbous look to them, but when the "palm" is tilted, they're skinny looking (notice when he pushes Luke's shoulder). As is it looks like they're big huge things (obviously the actor was wearing rubber mittens). Your call, of course...
PS: Spotted the battle droid, and it looks good, very unobtrusive. But I'm at a loss where Georgie is. Is it "old George" or "young George"? Give us a hint!
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True, but I also thought that maybe certain species' bodies in the SW Universe have something about their bodies that somehow won't cauterize". Although I fine with it either way.
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i would like to hear everyone else's opinion about this is possible. Should i redo the shot or keep it as it is?
Originally posted by: Kurgan
PS: Spotted the battle droid, and it looks good, very unobtrusive. But I'm at a loss where Georgie is. Is it "old George" or "young George"? Give us a hint!
PS: Spotted the battle droid, and it looks good, very unobtrusive. But I'm at a loss where Georgie is. Is it "old George" or "young George"? Give us a hint!
Its George circa 1976
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Originally posted by: adywan
I knew that the changes i made wouldn't please everyone but this was originally just for me and it's exactly the way i wanted it .
I knew that the changes i made wouldn't please everyone but this was originally just for me and it's exactly the way i wanted it .
Which is the way it should always be. Popular opinion is fine and dandy, but at the end of the day, every edit should be what the EDITOR wants it to be. I just got through skimming the film, and I have to say "Job well done." There's a shot or two I would have done differently, but you were the one who sat down and put in the hours. Kudos on finishing, and try not to let it overwhelm you as the requests for ESB start pouring in.
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Excellent work all around. The changes I thought I wouldn't be in favor of (the ROTS music in the fight scene) I ended up liking very much. The only real change that I didn't like was the Tie attack during the Death Star battle. It breaks up the pacing a bit and the first pan shot runs too long. But hell, Biggs gets a kill and that's enough to make up for it.
Speaking of which, one of favorite subtle change is having Luke scream "Biggs!" over the radio.
Out of all 4 of the Star Wars versions I have, yours probably ranks second, behind the GOUT DVD from 2006. Even if the picture is shoddy, I still prefer the original Star Wars over any Special Edition out there. But your edit most certainly is the best SE of Star Wars out there and damn near beats the original. Now go drink, eat, and take the rest of the year off. You've earned it.
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Originally posted by: adywan
i would like to hear everyone else's opinion about this is possible. Should i redo the shot or keep it as it is?
i would like to hear everyone else's opinion about this is possible. Should i redo the shot or keep it as it is?
I'm fine with the shot as-is, but are there any photos of the underside of Ponda's flipper? If there's more detail to work with, maybe have his arm flipped over, rather than 'palm' down?
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Originally posted by: Tubes
Now go drink, eat, and take the rest of the year off. You've earned it.
Now go drink, eat, and take the rest of the year off. You've earned it.
i would just settle for some sleep. i think i've forgotten what it is since doing this.
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Just adding my appreciation for all the hard work you have put into this. It has certainly paid off! Your work is 100% professional and you have produced something that is going to be talked about! I was expecting quality from you from the contributions in this thread but you blew away my expectations with this finished product.
Can't wait to PIF this once the DVD version hits usenet.
Congratulations and well done.
Dangelus
And thanks for kindly including me in the credits!
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I haven't found the battle droid or George, but I wasn't exactly looking for them either.
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Originally posted by: Sevb32
As for the blood, the saber cortorizes the wound so there would be no blood. here's a snapshot from the holiday special that shows his flipper, even though the colouring is different to that in ANH because of the lighting:
True, but I also thought that maybe certain species' bodies in the SW Universe have something about their bodies that somehow won't cauterize". Although I fine with it either way.
As for the blood, the saber cortorizes the wound so there would be no blood. here's a snapshot from the holiday special that shows his flipper, even though the colouring is different to that in ANH because of the lighting:
True, but I also thought that maybe certain species' bodies in the SW Universe have something about their bodies that somehow won't cauterize". Although I fine with it either way.
And let's not forget that Darth Maul bleeds, so the "sabers always cauterize wounds completely" isn't 100%.
The Aquilash costume is slightly different in the photo (from the SWHS I take it?), for instance the sleeves are cut short and he's got that shirt underneath.