They are the same type of file. Mine adds a menu file, but the Video_TS files are still there, and you can just ignore them when you copy to your hard drive. If I'm just making a cheap, quick copy of something, I use my DVDR recorder, and set it in two hour mode. If I really care, I set it to one hour mode, and record however many discs it takes to copy it, and then splice them together on my computer with Womble, or something of that nature.