Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Since there are some people on this forum who are knowledgeable about religion and the Bible I was wondering if you could help me with some questions. I don't know much about the Bible and I only read some parts recommended by C3PX.
There is this christian political group/party in the Netherlands that believe woman shouldn't vote, shouldn't be able to become a member of a political party and shouldn't be politically active. They claim to follow Gods word in this. By following God's word I assume they are talking about the Bible. I would like to know if there is anyone who can tell me how they could possibly have come to this conclusion. I guess it doesn't literally say this about women in the Bible so I would like to know if there are parts that can be interpreted this way.
Since there are some people on this forum who are knowledgeable about religion and the Bible I was wondering if you could help me with some questions. I don't know much about the Bible and I only read some parts recommended by C3PX.
There is this christian political group/party in the Netherlands that believe woman shouldn't vote, shouldn't be able to become a member of a political party and shouldn't be politically active. They claim to follow Gods word in this. By following God's word I assume they are talking about the Bible. I would like to know if there is anyone who can tell me how they could possibly have come to this conclusion. I guess it doesn't literally say this about women in the Bible so I would like to know if there are parts that can be interpreted this way.
That is completely unbiblical. Even Zombie's post about the possibilty of there being such a passage in the Old Testament is simply not the case (for one it was not a democracy, so the idea of voting in the way we think of it even being mentioned in the Old Testament would be absurd, for another, even one of the Jewish judges, which was a ruling position, was a woman).
Christians are under the new law, they do not follow Jewish law (which is what Zombie is refering to). Christian doctrine teaches that when Christ came he fullfilled the old law, and now the restrictions of that law do not apply. That means no circumcision for Christians, not burnt offereings, and that all things that were considered unclean are now clean. The argument often comes up around here that we Christians are hypocrytical and choosing to obey certian parts of the Bible selectively (and that may be the case, but not due to the examples of Christians not following the old law that is so often brought up here), let me put this to rest right now. Seriously, it is part of our doctrine that the Old Testament Law is not to be followed.
Paul wrote to the church in Galatia, "Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law. You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." - Galatians 3:23-29
In Christ there is no "male" or "female" we are all equal. Groups like that "Christian" political group/party in the Netherlands are either very misguided, or they just want to use religion as an excuse to oppress women. Whatever their motive, they are both wrong and unbiblical.
Hellhound, good job showing them what for. Score one point for Christians whoohoo <- tounge in cheek! ("loyal Christians" that behave and act like Hellhound make me seriously want to consider converting to atheism).