Originally posted by: JediRandy
And I'm blown away by your inability to be civil for 2 seconds.
"As much as I love Empire Strikes Back, I could have lived without it."
The only thing more idiotic than that statement is one that ends in "...anyway, I Love Jar Jar Binks!".
Originally posted by: C3PX
Maybe, he does tend to screw with most of his films, even the relatively unpopular ones. He screwed with THX 1138 and he added a CG sunset to American Graffiti. He was pretty quick to add the "A New Hope" subtitle to Star Wars and the "Indiana Jones and the ..." to a film that was once just called "Raiders of the Lost Ark". But would the screwing with have been as bad? He would have had to come up with an entirely new character for Jabba, as the slug like version from ROTJ would have never existed. And what is to say Star Wars would have remained in demand enough to warrant a theatrical re release worthy of all the time and effort put into the SE? Even if he did put Jabba in the film in some form or another, I don't think it would have been as big of a deal, because that was a real deleted scene from the movie. A pretty cool, but redundant one though. Even if the CG Jabba would have been as it is now, it wouldn't have been a big deal because it would be the only Jabba we would ever know. But in all honesty, I am not so sure Lucas would have choosen to put it back in had the character not been established in ROTJ. At any rate, I don't think the PT changes would have been as annoying in this alternative reality. You never know really. Perhaps the only reason he made "improvements" to THX and Graffiti was because he had already begun the habbit with the SW trilogy. Maybe if the SE wouldn't have happened, THX director's cut or Graffiti's Sunset would not have happened.
But again, this was not the point of my "wishing the SW sequels had never happened", my point was that I would have liked to have seen what else ol' George had in him, rather than seeing him become an object of lust for Rick McCallum and an object or worship for a fanbase of rabid SW fans.
Originally posted by: Mielr
I have to agree with JediRandy for once- if you don't like the prequels (which I don't), don't watch them.
Damn, one idiot misunderstanding my post knocked this whole conversation in a dumb direction. (And just to clairify and avoid offending anyone, the idiot was not you Mielr, but his name is mentioned in the above quote.)
and unrelated to my above comment, for all you saying you wouldn't give up EBS, I have long proclaimed ESB as my favorite SW film, it is brilliant in most regards. But the older I get the more I think he went in the wrong direction with the "I am your father thing", but that on its own is not enough to hurt the film. What really hurts ESB is ROTJ, which is a pretty silly piece of work in comparison to its two older brothers. SW and ESB are great classic sci-fi, but ROTJ, while it has some brilliant parts, to me it is sullied by all the crap you have to sift through to get to those great parts. And ESB is hurt by having no conclusion save from ROTJ, but SW is not effected at all by either of them (unless you count the addition of the "Episode IV: A New Hope" subtitle).
.....and it's probably true that even if SW '77 were the only SW film, GL would still have screwed around with it.
I have to agree with JediRandy for once- if you don't like the prequels (which I don't), don't watch them.
Damn, one idiot misunderstanding my post knocked this whole conversation in a dumb direction. (And just to clairify and avoid offending anyone, the idiot was not you Mielr, but his name is mentioned in the above quote.)
and unrelated to my above comment, for all you saying you wouldn't give up EBS, I have long proclaimed ESB as my favorite SW film, it is brilliant in most regards. But the older I get the more I think he went in the wrong direction with the "I am your father thing", but that on its own is not enough to hurt the film. What really hurts ESB is ROTJ, which is a pretty silly piece of work in comparison to its two older brothers. SW and ESB are great classic sci-fi, but ROTJ, while it has some brilliant parts, to me it is sullied by all the crap you have to sift through to get to those great parts. And ESB is hurt by having no conclusion save from ROTJ, but SW is not effected at all by either of them (unless you count the addition of the "Episode IV: A New Hope" subtitle).
.....and it's probably true that even if SW '77 were the only SW film, GL would still have screwed around with it.
Maybe, he does tend to screw with most of his films, even the relatively unpopular ones. He screwed with THX 1138 and he added a CG sunset to American Graffiti. He was pretty quick to add the "A New Hope" subtitle to Star Wars and the "Indiana Jones and the ..." to a film that was once just called "Raiders of the Lost Ark". But would the screwing with have been as bad? He would have had to come up with an entirely new character for Jabba, as the slug like version from ROTJ would have never existed. And what is to say Star Wars would have remained in demand enough to warrant a theatrical re release worthy of all the time and effort put into the SE? Even if he did put Jabba in the film in some form or another, I don't think it would have been as big of a deal, because that was a real deleted scene from the movie. A pretty cool, but redundant one though. Even if the CG Jabba would have been as it is now, it wouldn't have been a big deal because it would be the only Jabba we would ever know. But in all honesty, I am not so sure Lucas would have choosen to put it back in had the character not been established in ROTJ. At any rate, I don't think the PT changes would have been as annoying in this alternative reality. You never know really. Perhaps the only reason he made "improvements" to THX and Graffiti was because he had already begun the habbit with the SW trilogy. Maybe if the SE wouldn't have happened, THX director's cut or Graffiti's Sunset would not have happened.
But again, this was not the point of my "wishing the SW sequels had never happened", my point was that I would have liked to have seen what else ol' George had in him, rather than seeing him become an object of lust for Rick McCallum and an object or worship for a fanbase of rabid SW fans.
And I'm blown away by your inability to be civil for 2 seconds.
"As much as I love Empire Strikes Back, I could have lived without it."
The only thing more idiotic than that statement is one that ends in "...anyway, I Love Jar Jar Binks!".
So you'd give up ESB to see what else GL could come up with... that's still insane, but whatever. Call me an idiot and then accuse me of starting an arguement.
And how'd you know I'm a "gusher"?