Originally posted by: Scruffy
I agree that the Jedi should have had faults in the PT. The OT made Yoda and Obi-wan look like real dipsticks, and that should have been reflected in the PT. But that could've been done without retconning the Jedi into an insular cult. It would have been enough to say that the Jedi are so busy fighting the Clone Wars that they don't notice this guy is starting to crack under pressure, adopting unorthodox methods, reading forbidden scrolls, and all that.
In a way, it's too bad that Lucas had so little to do with Star Wars from 1983 until 1997. The story of an strictly monastic Jedi cult that drives one of their members to the Sith is a pretty good one, and he could've given the story germ to an EU writer to flesh out. It could have been one of the Tales of the Jedi stories, thousands of years before ANH. It's a good story, it just doesn't work as Anakin's story.
I agree that the Jedi should have had faults in the PT. The OT made Yoda and Obi-wan look like real dipsticks, and that should have been reflected in the PT. But that could've been done without retconning the Jedi into an insular cult. It would have been enough to say that the Jedi are so busy fighting the Clone Wars that they don't notice this guy is starting to crack under pressure, adopting unorthodox methods, reading forbidden scrolls, and all that.
In a way, it's too bad that Lucas had so little to do with Star Wars from 1983 until 1997. The story of an strictly monastic Jedi cult that drives one of their members to the Sith is a pretty good one, and he could've given the story germ to an EU writer to flesh out. It could have been one of the Tales of the Jedi stories, thousands of years before ANH. It's a good story, it just doesn't work as Anakin's story.
See I like the Jedi being a bunch of out of touch monks, cause it makes Lukes character that much better. I never understood why fans thought the Jedi should be this glamor bunch, cause if you watch just 4-6 again, Kenobi & Yoda were wrong the whole trilogy! They are lying to Luke, and everything they tried to steer him to in the end didn't work, cause it is eventually Luke who makes a new option NOT to fight and throw down his lightsaber, and that option was never presented once by Kenobi & Yoda.
The Monk aspect gives a good message to the viewer that in the end, all these PT characters grew up around Jedi, Politicians, War, etc, and none of them really grew up in a normal family. Padme was a queen at 14, is that normal? The Jedi are taken from their families, and become soldiers to the republic, and forsake a normal life, is that normal? Luke & Leia grew up as normal people who got involved with politicians and jedi AFTER they became adults, and it show how normal they are, and how they think alot more rationale then the PT characters did.
This is the one thing Lucas actually did right, was make the PT characters a bunch of screwups in that sense, so the OT characters can pick up the pieces and fix this mess. I still won't forgive Lucas for the turn scene, I have to look away whenever I watch it, it is truly awful.