Originally posted by: Tiptup
Right. The other half are Republicans who don't want that.
Originally posted by: Tiptup
The only problem is in the area of legitimate government action. Issues like having a strong national defense, being tough on criminals, standing up for our common social values, and having judges that uphold our laws (as apposed to judges that think our laws should mean whatever they feel it should at any moment) are too important to leave in the hands of a boob like Colbert. (Though I have a slight suspicion that he'd be better than Hillary.) Oh well.
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Really? All of them? Everything from Ron Paul's "If it's not in the Constitution, we shouldn't be doing it" to the other candidates "We have to finish the job"? Or were you just referring to the Democrat solutions?
Changing the government so that it stays the hell out of things is always a good idea, but apart from Ron Paul I don't really see a candidate truly advocating that. The lack of government action is not a solution though, that's just passing responsibility back to the people who should have it.
And what is the problem with that? Many people choose not to have health care because they view it as an unneeded expense. If you're someone, like me, who only gets sick once a year (I mean need to go to the doctor sick), then government mandated health care is the worst thing that can happen. I might spend $20 (copay + prescription) on myself in an entire year. If I were single and didn't drive, I might think twice about even wanting health care since it would serve practically no purpose. The responsibility needs to lie with the States by giving the People multiple options for what private health care they want. We don't need any government run system, period. If you are to stupid to take care of yourself and/or your family, then you're going to have to deal with the consequences. Things don't always go the way you expect, so being prepared for the unexpected is part of that.
Do people buy car insurance thinking they're going to go out and hit another car right away? Of course not. Do they get homeowners insurance expecting something to break? Of course not. They do it because bad things happen. No one wants to get hit by someone else, but we do it because the out of pocket expense of having to pay the damages yourself are a lot higher. That's true with everything from car insurance to life insurance.
Originally posted by: Tiptup
Absolute crap solutions like expanding socialized health care, where the government decides what kinds of health-care services you can get, are seriously being considered by around half the population of this country.
Really? All of them? Everything from Ron Paul's "If it's not in the Constitution, we shouldn't be doing it" to the other candidates "We have to finish the job"? Or were you just referring to the Democrat solutions?
Changing the government so that it stays the hell out of things is always a good idea, but apart from Ron Paul I don't really see a candidate truly advocating that. The lack of government action is not a solution though, that's just passing responsibility back to the people who should have it.
And what is the problem with that? Many people choose not to have health care because they view it as an unneeded expense. If you're someone, like me, who only gets sick once a year (I mean need to go to the doctor sick), then government mandated health care is the worst thing that can happen. I might spend $20 (copay + prescription) on myself in an entire year. If I were single and didn't drive, I might think twice about even wanting health care since it would serve practically no purpose. The responsibility needs to lie with the States by giving the People multiple options for what private health care they want. We don't need any government run system, period. If you are to stupid to take care of yourself and/or your family, then you're going to have to deal with the consequences. Things don't always go the way you expect, so being prepared for the unexpected is part of that.
Do people buy car insurance thinking they're going to go out and hit another car right away? Of course not. Do they get homeowners insurance expecting something to break? Of course not. They do it because bad things happen. No one wants to get hit by someone else, but we do it because the out of pocket expense of having to pay the damages yourself are a lot higher. That's true with everything from car insurance to life insurance.
Originally posted by: Tiptup
Absolute crap solutions like expanding socialized health care, where the government decides what kinds of health-care services you can get, are seriously being considered by around half the population of this country.
Right. The other half are Republicans who don't want that.
Originally posted by: Tiptup
The only problem is in the area of legitimate government action. Issues like having a strong national defense, being tough on criminals, standing up for our common social values, and having judges that uphold our laws (as apposed to judges that think our laws should mean whatever they feel it should at any moment) are too important to leave in the hands of a boob like Colbert. (Though I have a slight suspicion that he'd be better than Hillary.) Oh well.
Agreed.