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Humourous Rant about Lucas on MSNBC

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21365041/

I guess when it rains it pours. I’ve been posting a few Lucas articles in the last couple of days but they’ve all been at least informative, this one I just find funny.

The last paragraph about the authors background made be laugh out loud, it really applies to a lot of posters on this board, well the whole article does.

Enjoy.

Edit: I re-read the title and did not want to give the impression Lucas was the one doing the ranting so hence the edit.

 

Mod Edit: a working link to the article above can be found at:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20071110212018/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21365041

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I still maintain that the PT lost a lot in the editing room. Far too much to editing. all so the movies could be shorter. I'd pay to see the movies (especially AOTC) 30 minutes longer with the material that should be in there, back in, and maybe some of the unnecessary material cut out... like a bit of the fighting on Geonosis.

The difference between Lucas 70's and Lucas 00's is two big people who crowded his vision: Ben Burtt (a SOUND designer) and Rick McCallum.


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I certainly don't think Rick McCallum is making any creative decisions that are getting in Lucas' way, I think the man's only job is to stick around to give Lucas rim jobs at the end of the day, and to tell him how perfect everything he comes up with is. If by crowding his vision you mean stroking his ego and reaffirming Lucas' inflated view of himself and his misconception that he is THE master story teller and can do no wrong, then yeah, McCallum is crowding the hell out of Lucas' vision.

What Lucas' vision needs are a few people to say, "Well George, that sounds interesting, but maybe we should go a different route..." instead we have Lucas shooting down the creative contributions of everyone else and telling them "That sounds good. But not for MY movie." That is why Lucas is failing, because he turns a deaf ear to the advice of others. His near non-existent "creativity" could use some good crowding these days, it is getting pretty thin.

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It appears that our ire is finally spreading.

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Originally posted by: GoodMusician
I still maintain that the PT lost a lot in the editing room. Far too much to editing. all so the movies could be shorter. I'd pay to see the movies (especially AOTC) 30 minutes longer with the material that should be in there, back in, and maybe some of the unnecessary material cut out... like a bit of the fighting on Geonosis.


Longer? Especially AotC?!

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Originally posted by: GoodMusician
I still maintain that the PT lost a lot in the editing room. Far too much to editing. all so the movies could be shorter. I'd pay to see the movies (especially AOTC) 30 minutes longer with the material that should be in there, back in, and maybe some of the unnecessary material cut out... like a bit of the fighting on Geonosis.

The difference between Lucas 70's and Lucas 00's is two big people who crowded his vision: Ben Burtt (a SOUND designer) and Rick McCallum.


I don't think the big problem with the PT is editing, it is the lack of heart and characters moviegoers don't care about is the biggest problem, let alone which demographic Lucas was going after: The Jar Jar Audience, or the Anakin burning up audience?

Personally, I don't really care about the PT characters, except maybe Kenobi, as Lucas was able to give him a good storyline in AOTC, but utterly was wasted in TPM and ROTS was overshadowed by Anakin. Anakin & Padme are the key to the whole PT, and most people I know don't give a rats ass about either character, Anakin is a whiny, creepy, a-hole the minute he sets foot on screen in AOTC. Padme is a boring, monotone one dimensional character who loses the will to live as her character arc?

The thing OT fans take for granted is that the characters in 4,5,6 are probably some of the most relatable, realistic characters ever put on screen in this genre. They each have a personality that one of us can relate to. Leia is spunky, edgy and alot of girls look up to her, and Carrie Fisher played her to perfection. Hammil is the golden boy that every little kid wanted to be as he is the ultimate good guy. Ford is the coolest guy in a GFFA, and he is also the funniest too as he mocks C3PO for 3 movies and does what he does. Those are real characters, and that makes the movies so much more believable in that sense. Padme & Anakin are just a bunch of bores that have zero chemistry, and it just takes you right out of the movies, just think if Ford & Fisher had zero chemistry, would ESB work?

There are many problems with the PT that have been listed for years, but I still maintain that Lucas got caught up in dazzlying the audience with SPX instead of just concentrating on the characters and their relationships, cause that is what makes me revisit the OT 30 years later: The story & characters. Just remember what Lucas said in TPM documentary the first day on set, "Jar Jar is the key!" That means if we can wow the world with an all-CG character, it will be revolutionary. Well.....you guys know what happened.

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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
I still maintain that the PT lost a lot in the editing room. Far too much to editing. all so the movies could be shorter. I'd pay to see the movies (especially AOTC) 30 minutes longer with the material that should be in there, back in, and maybe some of the unnecessary material cut out... like a bit of the fighting on Geonosis.

The difference between Lucas 70's and Lucas 00's is two big people who crowded his vision: Ben Burtt (a SOUND designer) and Rick McCallum.


I don't think the big problem with the PT is editing, it is the lack of heart and characters moviegoers don't care about is the biggest problem, let alone which demographic Lucas was going after: The Jar Jar Audience, or the Anakin burning up audience?

Personally, I don't really care about the PT characters, except maybe Kenobi, as Lucas was able to give him a good storyline in AOTC, but utterly was wasted in TPM and ROTS was overshadowed by Anakin. Anakin & Padme are the key to the whole PT, and most people I know don't give a rats ass about either character, Anakin is a whiny, creepy, a-hole the minute he sets foot on screen in AOTC. Padme is a boring, monotone one dimensional character who loses the will to live as her character arc?

The thing OT fans take for granted is that the characters in 4,5,6 are probably some of the most relatable, realistic characters ever put on screen in this genre. They each have a personality that one of us can relate to. Leia is spunky, edgy and alot of girls look up to her, and Carrie Fisher played her to perfection. Hammil is the golden boy that every little kid wanted to be as he is the ultimate good guy. Ford is the coolest guy in a GFFA, and he is also the funniest too as he mocks C3PO for 3 movies and does what he does. Those are real characters, and that makes the movies so much more believable in that sense. Padme & Anakin are just a bunch of bores that have zero chemistry, and it just takes you right out of the movies, just think if Ford & Fisher had zero chemistry, would ESB work?


Yep.

With the OT you had characters that were interesting in their own right, whereas with the PT, they were just mouthpieces for whatever passes for Lucas' (latest) personal ethic or 'philosophy' these days....




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Wrong. It was a toy commercial. No you're right, the lack of focus on the characters is one of its problems. By the time rots came along it was too late... we just don't have enough time to get to know all these people now when we had 2 movies wasted.

I can sit back now and watch ANH and look pass all the fx and see some clever writing and of course spot on performances... I see something like grievous and wonder how many gigabites it must have taken up on some hard drive.

I wish lucas would let someone else do this new show damnit...
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