Originally posted by: CO
JR, you are right, we don't have to watch the TV show, just like not reading the EU novels, or even watching the PT movies, and just watch the OOT.......oh wait I can't do that unless I hit zoom twice on my remote control so the image gets more grainy
In all seriousness, I think SW has lost its mystique, and if you want to call me out on that, and tell me to get over, you have every right to do it, but it is a shame Lucas didn't stop at ROTJ in 1983, and I think the SW & George Lucas would have been perceived a bit different.
In many ways the OOT will always be groundbreaking, and to many it is the gold standard when it comes to this genre of movies, as LOTR seems to be the only trilogy that I hear from people that is possibly better, but that is a different argument.
But just think of how Lucas was perceived back in 1983? He was a god to all the SW fans, he was a wiz of Special Effects to the critics, and he was a financial genius for being the only director to ever finance his own movies and end up being a billonaire! I never heard in 1983 that Lucas can't write dialog, he can't direct actors, or that a SW movie was actually laughable.
What I am trying to say is that Lucas was getting TOO much credit, including from fans myself, who did think he was god. Hell, for alot of years I thought he directed all the OOT movies, even though I saw them on VHS 8 zillion times, not to check the end credits once, I just assumed he did everything.
Lucas had a mystique in 1983 the same way President Kennedy has one now, as he is considered a great US President by many yet he was only President for 2 1/2 years and never completed his term. He had a mystique the same James Dean and Marilyn Monroe had before they died prematurely, as fans just remember them in the prime, and never got to see them later in life if they were 60 or 70 years old, they will be remembered for their youth.
SW now to me is just another series, and I don't blame Lucas anymore in some respects, you can't just keep making magic with one subject, just look at any movie series, eventually it gets stale. Peter Jackson has a chance to make the Hobbit, and I say to him, "Don't do it!!!" Leave LOTR trilogy as is, its a classic, it sits up there with the OOT as a great set of movies, sometimes more is less.
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Or you could just not watch the TV show.... there are 100's a day I don't watch.
Or you could just not watch the TV show.... there are 100's a day I don't watch.
JR, you are right, we don't have to watch the TV show, just like not reading the EU novels, or even watching the PT movies, and just watch the OOT.......oh wait I can't do that unless I hit zoom twice on my remote control so the image gets more grainy
In all seriousness, I think SW has lost its mystique, and if you want to call me out on that, and tell me to get over, you have every right to do it, but it is a shame Lucas didn't stop at ROTJ in 1983, and I think the SW & George Lucas would have been perceived a bit different.
In many ways the OOT will always be groundbreaking, and to many it is the gold standard when it comes to this genre of movies, as LOTR seems to be the only trilogy that I hear from people that is possibly better, but that is a different argument.
But just think of how Lucas was perceived back in 1983? He was a god to all the SW fans, he was a wiz of Special Effects to the critics, and he was a financial genius for being the only director to ever finance his own movies and end up being a billonaire! I never heard in 1983 that Lucas can't write dialog, he can't direct actors, or that a SW movie was actually laughable.
What I am trying to say is that Lucas was getting TOO much credit, including from fans myself, who did think he was god. Hell, for alot of years I thought he directed all the OOT movies, even though I saw them on VHS 8 zillion times, not to check the end credits once, I just assumed he did everything.
Lucas had a mystique in 1983 the same way President Kennedy has one now, as he is considered a great US President by many yet he was only President for 2 1/2 years and never completed his term. He had a mystique the same James Dean and Marilyn Monroe had before they died prematurely, as fans just remember them in the prime, and never got to see them later in life if they were 60 or 70 years old, they will be remembered for their youth.
SW now to me is just another series, and I don't blame Lucas anymore in some respects, you can't just keep making magic with one subject, just look at any movie series, eventually it gets stale. Peter Jackson has a chance to make the Hobbit, and I say to him, "Don't do it!!!" Leave LOTR trilogy as is, its a classic, it sits up there with the OOT as a great set of movies, sometimes more is less.
Well said.... I can type about how I don't think they're perceived as badly as they are online... that everyone is a critic online and everything sucks online , etc....
I do think that the OT is still thought of and loved the same as it was before the PT... it's not going to go away or be diminished. IMO the PT fan reaction is waaaaaaay more valid than the SE reactions.
Honestly, I just love the SW universe and I hope the cartoon and the live action show are great fun. If they're not, Han Solo from ANH is still the coolest character ever and I'll still love the OT.