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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Well I think we can all agree that it'll get enough attention from people to get an audience for the first few episodes. If it's good, it'll do well, if not then it won't... just like any other show. But don't think that it won't get picked up by some network/cable channel...

think of it this way... how many times have fans said "I wish GL would let someone else write SW"... well, here it is. Let's see what happens.

I never thought that I'd say this, but I agree with Randy. We've all wanted to see someone else take on the Star Wars universe, and now we we will. Be carefuly what you wish for, I suppose. But really, I think that it'll happen however it does. We'll just have to wait and see.

We shall see...who knows.


Not I, that's for certain .

Again, we will see how the ratings do; I don't think we have enought data about how many people actually saw the later PT films (TPM was huge, it had everyone who ever liked Star Wars going, and we brought our skeptical wives and friends--they didn't come with us to see AotC or RotS!). Yes they were very successful movies, but just go and look over at TF.N (back in the days when the movies were out) and see all the people who posted that they saw RotS, literally, 38 times or 50 times, etc. Such fanatical devotion of repeat viewers carries no wait in the TV market where one time market share is all the matters. It will be very interesting to see what kind of ratings these shows garner and will go along way in answering how popular the post-PT Star Wars franchise actually is.


True, but there's always DVD sales.

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Guy,

Battlestar Galactica - Season One (2005)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B000AJJNFE/ref=sr_1_2/002-7853221-2381637?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192588681&sr=1-2
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #434 in DVD

Battlestar Galactica: Seasons 2.0 and 2.5 (2005)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Seasons-2-0-2-5/dp/B000NOIVV8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589427&sr=1-3
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #596 in DVD


Clone wars season 1:
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Vol-1/dp/B0006Z2LMO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589216&sr=8-2
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,044 in DVD

Clone wars season 2:
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Vol-2/dp/B000BCE8Q4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589216&sr=8-1
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #873 in DVD

Not exactly billboard, but it gives you a general idea.
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Originally posted by: RatioTile
Guy,

Battlestar Galactica - Season One (2005)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B000AJJNFE/ref=sr_1_2/002-7853221-2381637?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192588681&sr=1-2
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #434 in DVD

Battlestar Galactica: Seasons 2.0 and 2.5 (2005)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Seasons-2-0-2-5/dp/B000NOIVV8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589427&sr=1-3
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #596 in DVD


Clone wars season 1:
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Vol-1/dp/B0006Z2LMO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589216&sr=8-2
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,044 in DVD

Clone wars season 2:
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Vol-2/dp/B000BCE8Q4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589216&sr=8-1
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #873 in DVD

Not exactly billboard, but it gives you a general idea.


A general idea of what?

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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
Is there any data on how well the current dvds of the Clone Wars cartoons have sold? Especially compared to something like the dvds of Galactica (which is highly praised and well loved on the internet, yet struggles to get "regular" people to watch it and stay on the air)?


I believe that Clone Wars made quite a chunk of change.

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So here's the big "whatever" rumors for the live action series that have been bouncing around the net today. I thought these would be posted and discussed, but since I didn't see anything I thought I'd throw it out there. This was posted on aint it cool news website and was taken down a while after. So here is the posting from theforce.net on the information (which they credit from aintitcool). So all the goofy excitement about prequel characters is from their editorial. This was supposed to have come from some "trusted" sources that give lucasfilm information to aintitcool.


(remembering that the series will be set between Episodes III and IV)

1. Pod Races will be revisited as the series will try to take in and revisit a lot in the SW universe we have come to know and love through the movies.

2. One of the Pod Racers highlighted will be a character named Thall Joben, who you may, or may not, remember from the Droids animated series.

3. We will see Rebel bases, Star Destroyers, Imperial troops, officers, undercover operatives and much more...

4. Expect to see some EU tie-ins (horray!) An example being a Rebel General with the last name Durron. Could this be the father or family member of the future Kessel slave turned Jedi, Kyp Durron?

5. We will see a character named General Papanoida who could be the very same character that George Lucas played during the Opera House scenes in Revenge of the Sith, Barron Papanoida.

6. We will see some characters from the films such as Bib Fortuna and Oola, the poor, rancor eaten, beautiful dancing Twi'lek.

7. The Death Star plans should come into play.

8. The series will go into detail with the characters and what makes them tick. Not everyone is either good or bad.

9. Look for the tone to be that of the Original Trilogy but a bit edgier.

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I just heard a blurb about the live-action series during the hourly newsbreak on my local Fox-radio (AM) network. They said something about Lucas having "a good idea for the series" but for now he's "keeping it to himself." Riiiiiight.....

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Originally posted by: Mielr
I just heard a blurb about the live-action series during the hourly newsbreak on my local Fox-radio (AM) network. They said something about Lucas having "a good idea for the series" but for now he's "keeping it to himself." Riiiiiight.....


Probably meaning that he wants to see if he makes mones from the FIRST TV show before he tries another.

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Originally posted by: darthpreston1. Pod Races will be revisited as the series will try to take in and revisit a lot in the SW universe we have come to know and love through the movies.

9. Look for the tone to be that of the Original Trilogy but a bit edgier.


Not sure how you mix pod races with the tone of the Original Trilogy, let alone an "edgier" version of the OT. But hey, didn't Lucas insist that the PT had the same tone as the OT--"for kids"?

Most of the rest of this stuff looks okay, actually, which is no guarantee that it will be well-executed.
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When will Lucas learn that, regarding Star Wars, less is more? The franchise was best remembered before the Dark Times, before the SEs and PT. I fear these TV shows will end up making the PT look like the OT. The backstory of Pod Racing is all we need to gaurantee that future generations will look at those of us who loved Star Wars in 1977 as lunatics, since all that they will be able to see is the SuperUltimateLastFinalLucasOnHisDeathBedEdition of Star Wars which will now be numbered Episode 104, as the 100 TV episodes will take place between Episode III and Star Wars. Whatever is left of Lucases legacy and good name will be buried on the shelves of the Library of Congress I am afraid.
The movie from 1977 was called Star Wars, not Episode IV, not A New Hope, not Star Wars Episode IV: a New Hope, just plane Star Wars
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Originally posted by: DarthPoppy
When will Lucas learn that, regarding Star Wars, less is more? The franchise was best remembered before the Dark Times, before the SEs and PT. I fear these TV shows will end up making the PT look like the OT. The backstory of Pod Racing is all we need to gaurantee that future generations will look at those of us who loved Star Wars in 1977 as lunatics, since all that they will be able to see is the SuperUltimateLastFinalLucasOnHisDeathBedEdition of Star Wars which will now be numbered Episode 104, as the 100 TV episodes will take place between Episode III and Star Wars. Whatever is left of Lucases legacy and good name will be buried on the shelves of the Library of Congress I am afraid.


Or you could just not watch the TV show.... there are 100's a day I don't watch.
"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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I don't plan on watching the TV shows. But on the off chance they are good, I am sure my brother will tape them!
The movie from 1977 was called Star Wars, not Episode IV, not A New Hope, not Star Wars Episode IV: a New Hope, just plane Star Wars
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Originally posted by: RatioTile
Guy,

Battlestar Galactica - Season One (2005)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Edward-James-Olmos/dp/B000AJJNFE/ref=sr_1_2/002-7853221-2381637?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192588681&sr=1-2
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #434 in DVD

Battlestar Galactica: Seasons 2.0 and 2.5 (2005)
http://www.amazon.com/Battlestar-Galactica-Seasons-2-0-2-5/dp/B000NOIVV8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589427&sr=1-3
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #596 in DVD


Clone wars season 1:
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Vol-1/dp/B0006Z2LMO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589216&sr=8-2
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #1,044 in DVD

Clone wars season 2:
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Vol-2/dp/B000BCE8Q4/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9380326-4497235?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1192589216&sr=8-1
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #873 in DVD

Not exactly billboard, but it gives you a general idea.

Clone Wars ended a while ago and BSG is still running, though; bear that in mind.

Or you could just not watch the TV show.... there are 100's a day I don't watch.


I won't, but if they're successful, it means more for Lucas to milk when he should be letting the franchise rest; I keep hoping that a good OOT release will come via the desire for more cash, and if he has the TV series raking it in, that means even less incentive.

When will Lucas learn that, regarding Star Wars, less is more? The franchise was best remembered before the Dark Times, before the SEs and PT. I fear these TV shows will end up making the PT look like the OT. The backstory of Pod Racing is all we need to gaurantee that future generations will look at those of us who loved Star Wars in 1977 as lunatics, since all that they will be able to see is the SuperUltimateLastFinalLucasOnHisDeathBedEdition of Star Wars which will now be numbered Episode 104, as the 100 TV episodes will take place between Episode III and Star Wars. Whatever is left of Lucases legacy and good name will be buried on the shelves of the Library of Congress I am afraid.


As long as there's money to be made, Star Wars will be milked dry.

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"7. The Death Star plans should come into play."

I hope this isn't true. I'm sick and tired of the Death Star plans. We've already had two computer games about stealing the DS plans, not to mention they figured prominently in the radio drama and the first movie. Aren't there any other MacGuffins they can use? Palpatine's briefcase that emits a wondrous glowing light? Darth Vader's identity? A holo made by Mon Mothma and Jan Dodonna in the privacy of her bedchambers and later stolen by Imperial Intelligence?
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Originally posted by: JediRandy


Or you could just not watch the TV show.... there are 100's a day I don't watch.


JR, you are right, we don't have to watch the TV show, just like not reading the EU novels, or even watching the PT movies, and just watch the OOT.......oh wait I can't do that unless I hit zoom twice on my remote control so the image gets more grainy

In all seriousness, I think SW has lost its mystique, and if you want to call me out on that, and tell me to get over, you have every right to do it, but it is a shame Lucas didn't stop at ROTJ in 1983, and I think the SW & George Lucas would have been perceived a bit different.

In many ways the OOT will always be groundbreaking, and to many it is the gold standard when it comes to this genre of movies, as LOTR seems to be the only trilogy that I hear from people that is possibly better, but that is a different argument.

But just think of how Lucas was perceived back in 1983? He was a god to all the SW fans, he was a wiz of Special Effects to the critics, and he was a financial genius for being the only director to ever finance his own movies and end up being a billonaire! I never heard in 1983 that Lucas can't write dialog, he can't direct actors, or that a SW movie was actually laughable.

What I am trying to say is that Lucas was getting TOO much credit, including from fans myself, who did think he was god. Hell, for alot of years I thought he directed all the OOT movies, even though I saw them on VHS 8 zillion times, not to check the end credits once, I just assumed he did everything.

Lucas had a mystique in 1983 the same way President Kennedy has one now, as he is considered a great US President by many yet he was only President for 2 1/2 years and never completed his term. He had a mystique the same James Dean and Marilyn Monroe had before they died prematurely, as fans just remember them in the prime, and never got to see them later in life if they were 60 or 70 years old, they will be remembered for their youth.

SW now to me is just another series, and I don't blame Lucas anymore in some respects, you can't just keep making magic with one subject, just look at any movie series, eventually it gets stale. Peter Jackson has a chance to make the Hobbit, and I say to him, "Don't do it!!!" Leave LOTR trilogy as is, its a classic, it sits up there with the OOT as a great set of movies, sometimes more is less.
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Originally posted by: CO
I think SW has lost its mystique, and if you want to call me out on that, and tell me to get over, you have every right to do it, but it is a shame Lucas didn't stop at ROTJ in 1983, and I think the SW & George Lucas would have been perceived a bit different.

But just think of how Lucas was perceived back in 1983? He was a god to all the SW fans, he was a wiz of Special Effects to the critics, and he was a financial genius for being the only director to ever finance his own movies and end up being a billonaire! I never heard in 1983 that Lucas can't write dialog, he can't direct actors, or that a SW movie was actually laughable.

Lucas had a mystique in 1983 the same way President Kennedy has one now, as he is considered a great US President by many yet he was only President for 2 1/2 years and never completed his term. He had a mystique the same James Dean and Marilyn Monroe had before they died prematurely, as fans just remember them in the prime, and never got to see them later in life if they were 60 or 70 years old, they will be remembered for their youth.


+1. Well put CO.

There have been a few TV sitcoms that quit when they were still strong. Each time, the actors\creators said they wanted to stop when the series were still good, still watchable. Leave at the top of their game, etc, etc.

The Prequels are what happen when you don't do that. Lucas should have quit when he was ahead.

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Yuck.

I won't be watching the live action series, if it indeed does happen, which at this point I can still see it going either way.

I'm not remotely interested in any EU so why start now.

Though in saying that I probably will watch a few of the 3D clone wars episodes as my interest lies more with the quality of the animation rather than it being SW related. I'm a sucker for animation and Lucasfilm's new animation studio should be at the very least interesting.

More Lucas musings on the live action series http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-starwars17oct17,0,6734523.story?coll=la-home-center

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Originally posted by: see you auntie
More Lucas musings on the live action series http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-starwars17oct17,0,6734523.story?coll=la-home-center


From the article:

"They are having a hard time," Lucas said. "They're saying, 'This doesn't fit into our little square boxes..."

What an arrogant statement coming from a guy who (while trying to expand his one story, on the fly) could only come up with having every character somehow end up being related to one or more of the other characters. He turned a giant, mysterious universe into The Wizard Of Oz.
Man, talk about a little square box.

Also, he couldn't be more wrong. These days, networks - broadcast and cable - are taking more chances and writing\shooting\presenting outside the little box more than they ever have before.

He really is the same guy he's always been. If he doesn't get exactly what he wants, he just digs his heels in and tells everyone else they're the ones that are wrong. Emotionally, he's still a child - it's as if the words "no" or "we disagree" don't really make sense to him.

People can't have a different opinion than him either. They can only have a wrong opinion. A network turns him down and it is immediately because they think small (read incorrectly) - not because they have a valid or different opinion. He can't just say "ok, thank you for your time" - he has to mock them in a national publication. Again, more child-like behavior.

I'm shocked sometimes at how he can be so wrong and so arrogant.

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Originally posted by: Anchorhead


From the article:

"They are having a hard time," Lucas said. "They're saying, 'This doesn't fit into our little square boxes..."

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Lucas was able to make statements like that when it came to the movies, cause the name SW was a sure thing. WHen TPM came out, he threatened to pull his movies from theaters if they didn't respond to certain guidelines, and he had the power to do that. He then started making those demands with digital video with AOTC/ROTS, but nobody was listening by then.

TV is a different entity, as most TV shows fail, and there is no guarantee that this will be a success, and Lucas thinks he can bully the TV industry around the same way he does the movie industry.

Lucas has failed to realize the SW series is living off of the success of SW & ESB, and as much as I love ROTJ, it is average, and most people know it is nowhere as great as the previous installments. In all honesty, Lucas has done anything earth shattering since 1981 with Raiders, and I think people are finally catching onto him.

Now of course Lucas is a salesman, so he is going to ratchet up the quotes for these TV series saying they will be 'groundbreaking' and 'something that has never been seen on TV before' but I won't fall for it again, and I don't think the TV execs will either.

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I'd like to re-read his quotes from like a year ago when he was talking up his intent for both series saying that television was the medium at the moment best for putting your vision out there because it afforded you blah blah etc.

He was singing a different tune back then.

And I really don't have any major ill feelings for the man it's just it's like a car wreck, the car wreck that Star Was has become, I just can't look away.

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Originally posted by: see you auntie
I'd like to re-read his quotes from like a year ago when he was talking up his intent for both series saying that television was the medium at the moment best for putting your vision out there because it afforded you blah blah etc.

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The ironic thing was that he said that big budget/sequel movies were yesterday's news, and they weren't profitbable anymore, so what is the latest movie Lucas is producing: Indiana Jones IV!



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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: JediRandy


Or you could just not watch the TV show.... there are 100's a day I don't watch.


JR, you are right, we don't have to watch the TV show, just like not reading the EU novels, or even watching the PT movies, and just watch the OOT.......oh wait I can't do that unless I hit zoom twice on my remote control so the image gets more grainy

In all seriousness, I think SW has lost its mystique, and if you want to call me out on that, and tell me to get over, you have every right to do it, but it is a shame Lucas didn't stop at ROTJ in 1983, and I think the SW & George Lucas would have been perceived a bit different.

In many ways the OOT will always be groundbreaking, and to many it is the gold standard when it comes to this genre of movies, as LOTR seems to be the only trilogy that I hear from people that is possibly better, but that is a different argument.

But just think of how Lucas was perceived back in 1983? He was a god to all the SW fans, he was a wiz of Special Effects to the critics, and he was a financial genius for being the only director to ever finance his own movies and end up being a billonaire! I never heard in 1983 that Lucas can't write dialog, he can't direct actors, or that a SW movie was actually laughable.

What I am trying to say is that Lucas was getting TOO much credit, including from fans myself, who did think he was god. Hell, for alot of years I thought he directed all the OOT movies, even though I saw them on VHS 8 zillion times, not to check the end credits once, I just assumed he did everything.

Lucas had a mystique in 1983 the same way President Kennedy has one now, as he is considered a great US President by many yet he was only President for 2 1/2 years and never completed his term. He had a mystique the same James Dean and Marilyn Monroe had before they died prematurely, as fans just remember them in the prime, and never got to see them later in life if they were 60 or 70 years old, they will be remembered for their youth.

SW now to me is just another series, and I don't blame Lucas anymore in some respects, you can't just keep making magic with one subject, just look at any movie series, eventually it gets stale. Peter Jackson has a chance to make the Hobbit, and I say to him, "Don't do it!!!" Leave LOTR trilogy as is, its a classic, it sits up there with the OOT as a great set of movies, sometimes more is less.


Well said.... I can type about how I don't think they're perceived as badly as they are online... that everyone is a critic online and everything sucks online , etc....

I do think that the OT is still thought of and loved the same as it was before the PT... it's not going to go away or be diminished. IMO the PT fan reaction is waaaaaaay more valid than the SE reactions.

Honestly, I just love the SW universe and I hope the cartoon and the live action show are great fun. If they're not, Han Solo from ANH is still the coolest character ever and I'll still love the OT.


"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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"They are having a hard time," Lucas said. "They're saying, 'This doesn't fit into our little square boxes..."

Yet I bet that your little square boxes are anamorphic.

Also, he couldn't be more wrong. These days, networks - broadcast and cable - are taking more chances and writing\shooting\presenting outside the little box more than they ever have before.

I don't really think that this is true at all, given the current state of Hollywood's endlessly recycling idea machine, but even if it is, I still think that there would be no reason for them to purchase 100+ episodes of anything. Maybe he should start thinking outside of HIS little square box.

Lucas was able to make statements like that when it came to the movies, cause the name SW was a sure thing. WHen TPM came out, he threatened to pull his movies from theaters if they didn't respond to certain guidelines, and he had the power to do that. He then started making those demands with digital video with AOTC/ROTS, but nobody was listening by then.

Nobody was listening in what way?

TV is a different entity, as most TV shows fail, and there is no guarantee that this will be a success, and Lucas thinks he can bully the TV industry around the same way he does the movie industry.

The TV industry seems to be finally doing to him what he did for years and telling him that unless they do things his way, he can walk. There are other things that are more sure for cash than 100+ episodes of a series that's a wild card. I think that Lucas just expected to go and go "It's Star Wars!" and have everyone immediately be waving contracts in his face. To be honest, so did I. Evidently, that's not the case.

Lucas has failed to realize the SW series is living off of the success of SW & ESB, and as much as I love ROTJ, it is average, and most people know it is nowhere as great as the previous installments. In all honesty, Lucas has done anything earth shattering since 1981 with Raiders, and I think people are finally catching onto him.


What evidence is there of that?

Now of course Lucas is a salesman, so he is going to ratchet up the quotes for these TV series saying they will be 'groundbreaking' and 'something that has never been seen on TV before' but I won't fall for it again, and I don't think the TV execs will either.


We'll just have to see who will.

Peter Jackson has a chance to make the Hobbit, and I say to him, "Don't do it!!!" Leave LOTR trilogy as is, its a classic, it sits up there with the OOT as a great set of movies, sometimes more is less.


If he doesn't make The Hobbit, someone else will, and I'd rather see him do it for the sake of the material. I think that this is a COMPLETELY different scenario, because the source material for The Hobbit is tied to LOTR by the same author of the novels. It's not like they're making up more LOTR related stuff to cash in on its success. Sorry to jump, I'm just really passionate and keep hoping that the movie gods will simple upon me and let Jackson direct a kick-ass Hobbit movie that I can proudly place on my shelf.

Well said.... I can type about how I don't think they're perceived as badly as they are online... that everyone is a critic online and everything sucks online , etc....


True, and with the online fanbase, the truth, like it almost always does, lies somewhere in the middle.

I do think that the OT is still thought of and loved the same as it was before the PT... it's not going to go away or be diminished. IMO the PT fan reaction is waaaaaaay more valid than the SE reactions.


I think, and surely even you can agree, that the continuing perception of the OT comes from them just being damn good pieces of work. The PT reaction is more valid, I think, because it isn't a patch, but a new thing. I'm not saying that I dislike TPM because of a changed scene. I'm saying that I dislike it because I just don't think that it's very good.

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Lucas seems to be forgetting his truly terrible track record in television. "It's Star Wars", well so was Ewok Adventure. And Young Indy had a great, amazing roster of talent and still bombed in the ratings. He should understand why the networks would be a little gun shy.
It really is hard to say how Star Wars is perceived these days. I don't think the general population flat out hates the prequels, but I do think they are just getting indifferent to Star Wars in general. I only say that because the same thing happened in the 80s, people move on.
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Originally posted by: Anchorhead
Originally posted by: see you auntie
More Lucas musings on the live action series http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-starwars17oct17,0,6734523.story?coll=la-home-center


From the article:

"They are having a hard time," Lucas said. "They're saying, 'This doesn't fit into our little square boxes..."


And he even added "'Well, yeah, but it's Star Wars. And Star Wars doesn't fit into that box.'" So he's still got the "It's Star Wars!" mentality. I'm also willing to bet that Cartoon Network is willing to put it on Adult Swim, but that he views Cartoon Network as a "kiddie channel". I think that's pretty clear from this "to go after 9 o'clock, and it can't be a kiddie channel." I wonder if he's ever watched Adult Swim, since it's anything but a "kiddie channel".

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Pissing off Rob since August 2007.