Originally posted by: vbangle
LordJedi, the point I was trying to make was there is a nuclear deterrent in place. I don't necessarily agree with sean's position of not supporting Israel anymore but your premise of "If we stopped giving them money and stopped supporting them, the other countries would attack in the blink of an eye, much like they did the day after Israel was recreated way back in 1947." is flawed. Isreal's enemies would not attack in the blink of an eye....plus I'll let you on a little secret...you've seen the new F-35? The VSTOL marine model was supposed to be shared with Europe, its not. But Israel is going to get some....
The VSTOL F-35 makes any MIG shit its pants....I wouldn't worry too much about Israel if I were you, they will be fine.
LordJedi, the point I was trying to make was there is a nuclear deterrent in place. I don't necessarily agree with sean's position of not supporting Israel anymore but your premise of "If we stopped giving them money and stopped supporting them, the other countries would attack in the blink of an eye, much like they did the day after Israel was recreated way back in 1947." is flawed. Isreal's enemies would not attack in the blink of an eye....plus I'll let you on a little secret...you've seen the new F-35? The VSTOL marine model was supposed to be shared with Europe, its not. But Israel is going to get some....
The VSTOL F-35 makes any MIG shit its pants....I wouldn't worry too much about Israel if I were you, they will be fine.
And the point I was trying to make is that there's no way to deter crazy fuckwits like Iran. They're crazy nutjobs that don't care if Israel retaliates with nukes because they'll just spin it to make Israel look bad.
I'm not worried about Israel at all. I'm worried about the rest of the crazy ass nutjobs in that region that are willing to stop at nothing to ensure Israel is wiped off the face of the planet. You can't negotiate with those guys.
And FYI, the F-35 makes everything shit its pants. They had a special on it on the History channel just a few months ago. One F-35 downed everything, in a training exercise, that we threw at it. We're talking F-15s, F-14s, F-18s. Everything. The F-35 is THE modern equivalent of the F-15. Nothing stands a chance against it.