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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Since a bunch of them were together before finding Peter and Sylar, I see no reason why they couldn't have explained the situation to Niki. She could be brought up to speed very quickly and proceed to kick ass. Remember, it's Niki, not Jessica, she's quick to act and doesn't think much about the consequences.
Peter may have been surprised to see Hiro, but there wasn't much time to react. Hiro shows up, stabs Sylar, gets thrown toward the building, and then vanishes. All of 10 seconds may have passed. It certainly wasn't enough time to react very much, especially since he still thought he was going to blow up right there.
Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
Well, love dialogue aside, didn't Richard Roundtree's character make a reference to Peter ALWAYS having his powers turned on? Or am I missing something here?
I don't know, did he? I don't recall him saying anything like that, just that he was the one (images of Neo from the Matrix were conjured up at that point, especially since the fight in 5 years gone resembled Agent Smith vs Neo to me).
I don't think so. That's what he said, yes, but it's clearly not what he meant. He'd stop Peter by killing him, but he'd still be the bad guy (no one else was around). All the other heroes would still want him dead, so he wouldn't really be a hero. His comments were nothing more than to make Peter doubt himself. Once he was stabbed, he saw that he was suppose to die by using Isaac's power, so he let himself go (except apparently not).
Originally posted by: crazyrabbitsAfter watching the end battle again, I found it very funny that Niki, who should have no idea what's going on due to the fact that she's never met Sylar or Peter, grabs a traffic meter and beats the hell out of Sylar just for no reason. I'm also surprised that Peter wasn't surprised to see Hiro, especially since the only time they met (if I remember correctly) was on the train, and that was Future Hiro.
Well, love dialogue aside, didn't Richard Roundtree's character make a reference to Peter ALWAYS having his powers turned on? Or am I missing something here?
I don't know, did he? I don't recall him saying anything like that, just that he was the one (images of Neo from the Matrix were conjured up at that point, especially since the fight in 5 years gone resembled Agent Smith vs Neo to me).
Originally posted by: crazyrabbitsOh, really? Sylar just decides to stand there and do nothing when a guy with a sword verbally calls his name and runs towards him with a weapon screaming? He had more than enough time to get out of the way, so either he's a complete idiot, or he wanted to die, but since this is Sylar we're talking about here, that's a little hard to fathom.
Sylar's a nut job. He's taking all these powers because it's his duty (that's what he told Mohinder). Nothing he's done has surprised me, with the exception of going to his mom's house and acting all shaken up that he could be responsible for the death of millions.
Her comments, to me, simply indicated that Micah did not know what her true form was and it could be anything (not that it was though). I don't think there was anything to it except that. Why make the comment? Why not? Maybe she was just trying to give Micah something to mull over. Perhaps make him realize that "things are not always what they seem". I don't think Micah was suppose to be fearful or anything else. He was just suppose to wonder "Is this her true form and will I ever know what her true form is?" How can anyone know what a shapeshifters true form is except the shapeshifter themselves.
Originally posted by: MeBeJediSylar wasn't trying to die. He thought he would be able to stop Peter and make himself the hero. It wasn't until after he was stabbed that he was happy to let Peter blow up.
Sylar's a nut job. He's taking all these powers because it's his duty (that's what he told Mohinder). Nothing he's done has surprised me, with the exception of going to his mom's house and acting all shaken up that he could be responsible for the death of millions.
Originally posted by: crazyrabbitsOutside involvement aside (the Company had no reason to close the square off to outside individuals, because they don't have Molly to track Sylar, Thompson is dead, most of the security personnel in the building near the plaza are investigating Linderman and Thompson's murders, and there is no way HRG could have gotten through a blocked off section without being stopped by the Company [remember, he's still wanted by them]), there should have been at least SOME people outside (this is New York, after all).
In addition, I'm surprised that not ONE of the main characters were detained by the police or arrested. Considering the dead bodies in the building, the fact that there was a massive explosion right above the heart of the city AND a dead man laying in the plaza square, it's ridiculous that all of the characters were able to get away scot-free. For that matter, where was Agent Hanson? Why was she reintroduced in the previous episode? Wouldn't it have made more sense for her to show up at the end and get suspicious of what had happened in the plaza?
I've been to New York (that I can remember) all of one time. Sorry if I don't know what it's really like there. Would it have been better to have a bunch of people running around in chaos once the fight started? I'm sure that's why it was done. They could have had a bunch of extras walking around and then going into a panic, but for what purpose? Give the heroes people to save while Sylar attempts to pick them off as a distraction?
Originally posted by: crazyrabbitsThere's no reason for Candice to "play" Micah by suggesting she has a bigger shape. What, do you think Micah was supposed to be fearful that Candice would turn into a 500-pound woman and bodyslam him? Her comments indicated that her past form was different, but if she turned into the "regular" Candice at the end, why bother including those suggestions in the previous episode?
In addition, I'm surprised that not ONE of the main characters were detained by the police or arrested. Considering the dead bodies in the building, the fact that there was a massive explosion right above the heart of the city AND a dead man laying in the plaza square, it's ridiculous that all of the characters were able to get away scot-free. For that matter, where was Agent Hanson? Why was she reintroduced in the previous episode? Wouldn't it have made more sense for her to show up at the end and get suspicious of what had happened in the plaza?
I've been to New York (that I can remember) all of one time. Sorry if I don't know what it's really like there. Would it have been better to have a bunch of people running around in chaos once the fight started? I'm sure that's why it was done. They could have had a bunch of extras walking around and then going into a panic, but for what purpose? Give the heroes people to save while Sylar attempts to pick them off as a distraction?
Originally posted by: crazyrabbitsThere's no reason for Candice to "play" Micah by suggesting she has a bigger shape. What, do you think Micah was supposed to be fearful that Candice would turn into a 500-pound woman and bodyslam him? Her comments indicated that her past form was different, but if she turned into the "regular" Candice at the end, why bother including those suggestions in the previous episode?
Her comments, to me, simply indicated that Micah did not know what her true form was and it could be anything (not that it was though). I don't think there was anything to it except that. Why make the comment? Why not? Maybe she was just trying to give Micah something to mull over. Perhaps make him realize that "things are not always what they seem". I don't think Micah was suppose to be fearful or anything else. He was just suppose to wonder "Is this her true form and will I ever know what her true form is?" How can anyone know what a shapeshifters true form is except the shapeshifter themselves.
Originally posted by: MeBeJediSylar wasn't trying to die. He thought he would be able to stop Peter and make himself the hero. It wasn't until after he was stabbed that he was happy to let Peter blow up.
I don't think so. That's what he said, yes, but it's clearly not what he meant. He'd stop Peter by killing him, but he'd still be the bad guy (no one else was around). All the other heroes would still want him dead, so he wouldn't really be a hero. His comments were nothing more than to make Peter doubt himself. Once he was stabbed, he saw that he was suppose to die by using Isaac's power, so he let himself go (except apparently not).
Originally posted by: crazyrabbitsAfter watching the end battle again, I found it very funny that Niki, who should have no idea what's going on due to the fact that she's never met Sylar or Peter, grabs a traffic meter and beats the hell out of Sylar just for no reason. I'm also surprised that Peter wasn't surprised to see Hiro, especially since the only time they met (if I remember correctly) was on the train, and that was Future Hiro.
Since a bunch of them were together before finding Peter and Sylar, I see no reason why they couldn't have explained the situation to Niki. She could be brought up to speed very quickly and proceed to kick ass. Remember, it's Niki, not Jessica, she's quick to act and doesn't think much about the consequences.
Peter may have been surprised to see Hiro, but there wasn't much time to react. Hiro shows up, stabs Sylar, gets thrown toward the building, and then vanishes. All of 10 seconds may have passed. It certainly wasn't enough time to react very much, especially since he still thought he was going to blow up right there.
Seriously, stop trying to "fanwank" the bad writing to suit your own personal tastes. The final sequence lasted all of a couple minutes. Who, aside from Parkman (who seemed to be busy getting to the battle scene) even knew about Niki? Damn it, I get so fucking sick of people who explain away the bad writing. I don't want this show to start sucking like the last few years of Star Trek.
Hell, it seems that you don't even understand Candice's dialogue either. That was my point, that it makes no sense in the context of the story. Of course there should have been people around the area. it's a hell of a lot more accurate than a city where not one person is on the street. In fact, the whole city is empty throughout most of the episode, and it's never explained why. When Claire jumps out the window, the street is empty. When Peter meets Nathan in the parking garage, it's empty. When Peter collapses in the street, it's empty. It would have been a lot more frightening to see Sylar picking off random innocents as he is battling with the heroes.
For Christ's sake. I didn't even think it was that bad.
