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Search for vintage on Demonoid. It should come up.
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Pissing off Rob since August 2007.
The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released) — Page 5
Search for vintage on Demonoid. It should come up.
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Originally posted by: see you auntie
Rules state we can't link to that kind of stuff.
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Rules state we can't link to that kind of stuff.
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Wasn't asking for a link.
Thanks for the help guys. About to download them.
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Originally posted by: frendon
as it stands now, the histograms create more problems than solve them. One question though is this a product of the histograms or did you repaint the lightsaber on this shot?:
as it stands now, the histograms create more problems than solve them. One question though is this a product of the histograms or did you repaint the lightsaber on this shot?:
It might be just these particular histograms. I'm working with GOUT histograms at the moment, and although Desree once said they're "not different enough" (maybe that's what he said, or maybe that they're just not the best source I can't remember) I'm getting better results from a less extreme approach. This could fix the problems the previous histos created. Also taking Ocp's advice, and reducing the effect by about 50% could mix and combine histogram colors and 2004 colors into an overall natural picture. Luke's saber there I didn't repaint, a color replace function at the core of the blade could get it looking bright again. That's how I got Vader's white core back again, but Luke's saber was such another issue.
I like the cover art too
, though with no pleasant surprises at how the other two might look, it's at least nice and uniform if need be redundant. 
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A couple suggestions for V2:
- as Luke is running out of the wampa cave, it looks really weird, like it is missing frames or slowed down
- tone down the fiddling on the opening crawl - it casts a weird glow around the whole screen (at least on my tv) until the text fades away
- more color consitency during the first part of the Vader vs. Luke duel
- Vader vs. Luke in the windshaft could be brightened or have a little more blue to it (not much, though)
- you missed some blue R2 shots in the trip to Dagobah, I think
- add more clickable chapters in the chapters menu
In the end, I consider the results of your color tuning here much more successful than OCP's process. Hoth (for me) looks pretty well perfect. I much prefer this approach than the one in ESB:CE. I like too that you aren't mixing OUT materials in the same scenes as 2004 SE. Awesome! Can't wait to see the others! Good luck with the first movie - by the way - original 77 crawl, or ANH crawl?
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And I do like the idea of blending several different histograms for a more balanced color overall. Good luck to you in the future!
I never had the nerve to make the final cut.
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as many of you guys know I've been looking fora version of the OT; my friend (big thanks to him) lent me his VHS copies of SW and ESB (both pre-faces, one FOX vid other CBS.) If someone were to capture that, would you use the historgrams from it? Given the amount of dirt grain and random oddities found on the video, it's safe to say it probably has colors very close to the original.
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Hopefully a selectable crawl. I'd ask Rebel_1138 to help me make one, but I flaked out on an edit he helped me with awhile ago so he'd prolly not do it (feels bad
).Well I won't start a whole new thread for ANH till it's actually kinda done. I'm just starting, but my HD source looks pretty good.
So the typeface isn't exactly like the original...so what? Adjust the color back to what it was in '77 and it still feels like Star Wars.
This is what a white Tantive looks like when it's sourced from HD.
The 2004 DVDs had a gray overcast digitally overlayed in this shot to match surrounding shots. This is my first matte
. OCP is giving me his blessing in stealing his excellently done mattes, but he missed a couple shots. It's lucky I can pull these off.
Of course they changed the sky in this shot from an anachronistic red to blue matching the other shots. Well I need to blend this a little better, but I got it back to red
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is there any ghosting that occurs in your vintage edit?
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http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-one.html
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-two.html
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-three.html
Probably common, but I thought you could use this.
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Ghosting, yeah in the GOUT a little, just when I slowed it down so it would be a couple of frames longer as to not drop in any extra frames during encoding, and to fit into the timeline. Won't happen in SW. I'm doing the audio mix last. Going to try and make a deal for Neil S. Buck's corrected surround 1997 mix, for the rear channels to replace the DVD ones. That's the deal with that right?
I'm having troubles with the subtleties of the 2004 audio mix. There's the obvious changes that can be heard and easily replaced with some other source, but I can't find any definite answers to certain issues. Where exactly are the extra battle sound fx? Are the music channels reversed the whole time? I have the mono mix for reference, and the stereo mix for reference, but where could I find information on the uniqueness of the original six track? There's the mono mix comparison page, the "list of changes to Star Wars" thread that was very detailed about the audio. Any other definitive threads or sites?
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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
where could I find information on the uniqueness of the original six track? There's the mono mix comparison page, the "list of changes to Star Wars" thread that was very detailed about the audio. Any other definitive threads or sites?
DC & Faces - Original audio sourceswhere could I find information on the uniqueness of the original six track? There's the mono mix comparison page, the "list of changes to Star Wars" thread that was very detailed about the audio. Any other definitive threads or sites?
70mm mix to ’93 mix comparison
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
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"The Empire can't stop us now..now its our turn" -Luke-
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No SL version technically, I could DVD shrink it, but to devote uploading bandwidth to it I don't think is a good idea, since there's barely any seeders on the DL anyway. Is it an issue of computer space?
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I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.
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I'm glad to hear your kids are enjoying my edit
. I don't know your kids' age, but my greatest fear with all this Special Edition crap is that one day a post 1997 Star Wars fan is watching the 2004 DVD and actually says "the graphics were really ahead of their time in 1977."It sends chills down my spin, don't laugh, I've actually heard it said before...
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When DVD and laserdisc material were merged in the same frame, the older material had a jitter and slight color differences that made them stand out.
It looked like a really bad special effects shot and it pulled me out of the movie.
How did you deal with this... or didn't you?
Dr. M
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If I take a stab at more of Ocp style matte fixes, there won't be that jitter, and due to the improved nature of GOUT DVD as an alternate source, color might be easier to deal with as well.
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The jitter is because DVDs lack the frame to frame vertical shifting present on Laserdiscs (what the X0 project is using to restore stars and other detail).
When they are composited you see steady DVD video with a little window of shaky laserdisc material (like someone is using a hand held camera).
Dr. M