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Originally posted by: ferris209
I am a living testament that you need to teach your children about firearms if you plan to have one around. I am a cop now and my Dad has been for 36 years, whenever I was about 4 or 5 years old, my Dad took his really big and shiny .357 Magnum revolver from his duty belt, took all the ammo out of it, and handed it to me. He said, "Now, look at it, pull the trigger, see how it feels, but it is not a toy so you cannot play with it because it can hurt you and other people. But if you ever want to see it, just ask me anytime and I will let you see it." That whole experience pretty much crushed any curiosity I had about the gun and made it just another thing I saw that I'd already discovered. It no longer had the forbidden fruit aspect tied to it because I knew if I ever wanted to see it, I'd just ask Dad. I even had him show it to some of my friends, of course that was after my Dad had called their parents and got consent, but seeing as how my Dad was the Police Chief of the city, they all took his advice that it was better to explain guns to kids than hide it from them. Later on, whenever I was about 9 or 10, I asked him if I could shoot it because I was curious about what that felt like. Within hours, we were in the woods and he was showing me how to load, shoot, and safely handle the weapon. That had a profound effect on me and I carry on those principles today on the firing range it is also one of my many fond moments growing up and a cherished father/son moment that I often recall. I also learned that the gun is a one of the most elegant, powerful, and potentially disastrous things created by man and it had to be respected. I am now a Police Officer and have to carry a gun and have few around the house as well, and I know I will do the very same with my children whenever the time comes.


That sounds like the way to go.
Maybe that's how people should teach their children about drugs also.

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Here son, take a puff of this.

Hmm, yeah, that just might work. If you feel like going to prison.

Firefly I think can go either way. It has the whole cowboy thing, and cowboys in America are considered very conservative. They have their guns and value their freedom. You also have the whole outlaw theme and the oppressive government theme going on. Liberals are control freaks, whereas conservatives are very much interested in individual freedom, something the crew of the Serenity is also quite fond of. Then you have the gov. in Firefly which is depicted as evil and it is very U.N.ish in that it is a one world/one universe government, something the conservative are typically very against.

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Originally posted by: C3PX
Here son, take a puff of this.

Hmm, yeah, that just might work. If you feel like going to prison.

Firefly I think can go either way. It has the whole cowboy thing, and cowboys in America are considered very conservative. They have their guns and value their freedom. You also have the whole outlaw theme and the oppressive government theme going on. Liberals are control freaks, whereas conservatives are very much interested in individual freedom, something the crew of the Serenity is also quite fond of. Then you have the gov. in Firefly which is depicted as evil and it is very U.N.ish in that it is a one world/one universe government, something the conservative are typically very against.


That's a very good point.

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Another thing I noticed was that the government tried to chemically induce peace on planet Miranda with the PAX chemical; but it didn't work. People just lay down and died because the absence of aggression made them not care if they lived or not. The idea of peace at all costs is definitely not a conservative theme. Conflict is a part of human nature, and trying to take that away in Serenity killed a planet and created the Reavers.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I've never heard of "American President" or "Dave"...
Why could Serenity be seen as conservative lordjedi? And do you think of X-men as conservative? I'm having a hard time comparing movies to political views. I never watch them in that way, searching for a political message. Especially sci-fi. Although Equilibrium got me thinking about government control a bit.


Others have explained why I think Serenity is conservative. Government interference with private citizens and all that. Ultimate control to achieve peace which ultimately backfires. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

X-Men I'm not sure about. It has the whole segregation vs integration going for it. But it also has the leave them alone and let them live their lives thing going for it. I think the problem with X-Men is that the government is trying to tell everyone that they can use their powers for evil. But anything can really be used for evil. If you're a hammer, everything's a nail. I think X-Men is more about racism than liberal or conservative. There are racists on both sides of the aisle.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I've never heard of "American President" or "Dave"...
Why could Serenity be seen as conservative lordjedi? And do you think of X-men as conservative? I'm having a hard time comparing movies to political views. I never watch them in that way, searching for a political message. Especially sci-fi. Although Equilibrium got me thinking about government control a bit.


Others have explained why I think Serenity is conservative. Government interference with private citizens and all that. Ultimate control to achieve peace which ultimately backfires. Yadda, yadda, yadda.


But it also has the leave them alone and let them live their lives thing going for it. I think the problem with X-Men is that the government is trying to tell everyone that they can use their powers for evil.


Like the Patriot act?
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I've never heard of "American President" or "Dave"...
Why could Serenity be seen as conservative lordjedi? And do you think of X-men as conservative? I'm having a hard time comparing movies to political views. I never watch them in that way, searching for a political message. Especially sci-fi. Although Equilibrium got me thinking about government control a bit.


Others have explained why I think Serenity is conservative. Government interference with private citizens and all that. Ultimate control to achieve peace which ultimately backfires. Yadda, yadda, yadda.


But it also has the leave them alone and let them live their lives thing going for it. I think the problem with X-Men is that the government is trying to tell everyone that they can use their powers for evil.


Like the Patriot act?


The Patriot Act did nothing but spell out what could and was already done in certain circumstances. Try reading it sometime and then look at what was done before it. Nothing in the Patriot Act was new. And if you still don't like it, remember that only 1 Senator had the guts to vote no on it. So everyone in DC is at fault as far as I'm concerned.
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We started watching the legendary incompetent truth by albert gorey today.
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I should make a movie called The Infallible Truth about how the Rapture is coming.
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
I should make a movie called The Infallible Truth about how the Rapture is coming.


That title would actually make about as much sense as Gore's film. Perhaps even less. It could talk about Hilary Clinton being one of the anti-Christs. That would be kind of cool.

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Fred Phelps is actually a registered Democrat. Gave generously to the Clinton campaign, I believe there are photos of the two of them together.
As for political movies, what about Team America: World Police?

Take back the trilogy. Execute Order '77

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Nah---thats more funny to hell commentary comedy than liberal or conservative flick.
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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
Fred Phelps is actually a registered Democrat.


Should I be ashamed of the sense of Schadenfreude I get from this fact?

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It means taking pleasure from the pain of others.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Or in this case the 'foot-in-the-mouth status' of anyone who has tried to pass Fred Phelps off as typical of a Republican right-wing religious person, which he most assuredly isn't.

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He hates America because we don't persecute gay people. He's a miserable human being who gets his kicks by sending his minions to protest at funerals. I really don't want to talk about him.

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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
Fred Phelps is actually a registered Democrat. Gave generously to the Clinton campaign, I believe there are photos of the two of them together.
As for political movies, what about Team America: World Police?


Totally satire. It makes fun of both sides and everyone in the world. No one is safe when it comes to Tray Parker and Matt Stone.

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Movies are Rorschachs, as all (good) art is a mirror.

I see 300 as an all-too-obvious propaganda film geared toward glorifying democracy, de-Humanizing and demonizing Middle Easterners in general, and drumming up volunteer military enlistment.

I see the 3 X-Men films as an allegory on how Homosexuals are treated in America.

I see Crash as a beautifully crafted comment on our racist nature.

I see Superman Returns as a re-telling of the Christ myth. So was Chronicles of Narnia to a degree.

I see Kingdom of Heaven as a vehicle to stir up more vitriolic hatred between Christians and Muslims.

I think The Green Mile had a decidedly liberal intent. As did Born On the Fourth of July and Babel.



And "E.T." was undoubtedly intended as an apologist glorification of the illegal immigration issue... We just didn't know it 'til now.



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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Movies are Rorschachs, as all (good) art is a mirror.

I see 300 as an all-too-obvious propaganda film geared toward glorifying democracy, de-Humanizing and demonizing Middle Easterners in general, and drumming up volunteer military enlistment.

Tell that to Frank Miller, genius. The film was just a translation of the comic; there was no social commentary, it was just a brainless good vs evil film.

I see the 3 X-Men films as an allegory on how Homosexuals are treated in America.

Because homosexuals have special powers!

I see Crash as a beautifully crafted comment on our racist nature.

Not seen Crash, but the only 'racist nature' in modern America is the one manufactured by the media. By and large most Americans I know don't give a flying flip about your skin color.

I see Superman Returns as a re-telling of the Christ myth.


What 'Christ myth'? You mean the myth that he had a child with Mary Magdelene? You're reading way too much into that.

So was Chronicles of Narnia to a degree.


Chronicles of Narnia is well-known allegory to the death and ressurection of Christ. So I'm not sure what you mean by 'to a degree'..

I see Kingdom of Heaven as a vehicle to stir up more vitriolic hatred between Christians and Muslims.

I think The Green Mile had a decidedly liberal intent. As did Born On the Fourth of July and Babel.


Can't comment on those, know nothing about them.

And "E.T." was undoubtedly intended as an apologist glorification of the illegal immigration issue... We just didn't know it 'til now.


Bwahahahaahha!

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I am pretty sure Info droid was making a joke with all of those... at least I hope he was.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Crash,

Yeah, I saw that film, pretty good story telling, but extremely inaccurate as far as Law Enforcement goes. Pretty lame and ignorant, do you really think a cop could even think about feeling up a woman on duty and actually get away with it? Number one, I would never consider it, and two, let's not forget about the continued persecution of cops we have come to accept. I mean, can you think of any other job where your every word, movement, and decision will be videotaped, recorded, and documented and then second guessed for years to come? I have been around cops my whole life, and I have yet to hear a single one point race out as a single factor in anything. It is extreme prejudice of the media against police and it is now believed to be fact. Terrible, terrible, assumptions.
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Originally posted by: InfoDroid
Hahaha! Ferris, come on, Dude...you're living in a candy-coated fantasy land. Take the blinders off.

This was just reported yesterday....

Officer Forces Couples To Have Sex


Exception, not the rule.

You do realize this is the same twisted logic that lead to racists saying all black men are rapists just because some black men sometimes rape. That's detestable and ignorant.

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