Originally posted by: CO
The bottom line is, with exception of kids, is that anyone who thinks that the PT & ROTJ are better then SW & ESB probably watch movies just for the action and special effects, and are wowed easily. Now there is a base of fans out there who just love a good 2 hour popcorn flick that just wows them in the visual department, and the PT does that.
But for anyone to consciously say that SW & ESB are not the two best SW movies, I almost laugh at them now. There is a debate as to which is better SW or ESB? And I seem them as 1 & 1a, but the rest of the movies from a pure movie perspective are utter shit that have moments that wow a SW fan, but not a movie going fan. Sure ROTJ has the great throne room scenes, but you have to love SW to enjoy it. Sure the duel in TPM is a high octane with the music blaring and the stunts ratchted up, but again, the average movie fan could care less. SW & ESB can appeal to a mainstream audience who is just looking for a great film to watch, the other 4 movies just please some of the SW fan who have kinda found their niche as to what they like. Do you notice the PT fans always rave about ROTJ the most out of the OT? Cause it focuses on Vader more then any other OT movie, and that is the story they like, and that is why they can't take a step back and realize the movie is average, just like the PT movies.
The bottom line is, with exception of kids, is that anyone who thinks that the PT & ROTJ are better then SW & ESB probably watch movies just for the action and special effects, and are wowed easily. Now there is a base of fans out there who just love a good 2 hour popcorn flick that just wows them in the visual department, and the PT does that.
But for anyone to consciously say that SW & ESB are not the two best SW movies, I almost laugh at them now. There is a debate as to which is better SW or ESB? And I seem them as 1 & 1a, but the rest of the movies from a pure movie perspective are utter shit that have moments that wow a SW fan, but not a movie going fan. Sure ROTJ has the great throne room scenes, but you have to love SW to enjoy it. Sure the duel in TPM is a high octane with the music blaring and the stunts ratchted up, but again, the average movie fan could care less. SW & ESB can appeal to a mainstream audience who is just looking for a great film to watch, the other 4 movies just please some of the SW fan who have kinda found their niche as to what they like. Do you notice the PT fans always rave about ROTJ the most out of the OT? Cause it focuses on Vader more then any other OT movie, and that is the story they like, and that is why they can't take a step back and realize the movie is average, just like the PT movies.
I totally agree. I think the entire 6-part Star Wars saga is fine for what it is: a series of entertaining, immersive fantasy films that can be enjoyed by people of various ages. However, ANH and ESB go beyond that and are examples of truly good cinema. I think that's an important differentiation people have to make.
That being said, I think it's equally important to take a step back from the nitpicking sometimes and remember what one reviewer (whom I believe appears on the 2004 OT bonus disc) said, which was: "... and it's just fun... It's fun watching Star Wars."