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Post #283849

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mcfly89
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Waterworld ABC Cut? A ton of info - see McFly's posts for details (Released)
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Date created
23-Apr-2007, 3:05 PM
Here's an example of a shot that makes me happy I have a number of sources!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/thegreathunger/AnimatedLogosSuck.jpg

"The "BRAVO" lettering looks solid black here, it looked transparent in earlier screenies. So a logo-removal filter wouldn't work worth a damn anyway."

Actually, this one:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/thegreathunger/De-Logo3.jpg
...was an attempt I made at bringing the white of the bravo word balloon down to the same brightness as the rest of the frame. Had it worked, I would have refined it to cut out the bravo text as well. As you can see here, Bravo text is transparent:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i82/thegreathunger/TV.jpg

Nevertheless, the logo filters and my home-made experiment all flopped.

"The caps of the other channels would work a lot better than the VHS caps, for the scenes they have in common."

Unfortunately, all of my DV caps have the logos in the bottom right corner of the screen. I'll try to composite with the VHS, but my edit will in the end probably be a trade-off: you get twice the resolution of the Encore version (with the exception of some scenes), but have to put up with logos.

"You said you used:
DoubleWeave()
Pulldown(1,4)
But you didn't say which IVTC filter."

I thought that WAS the IVTC filter! After doing some more reading, I've found that most people recommend Decomb, so I've been learning that and the results look good. Decomb can't handle RGB, so I had to convert the chroma to YV12 before IVTC. At first I had the same chroma problem in areas of motion, but then I converted to YUY2 instead, and the problem is gone.

"DV codec could cause some color weirdness."

I'm aware that I'll lose chroma information going from DV (my source captures) to MPEG2 (for DVD), but it's my opinion that the quality loss of capturing MPEG2 and recompressing to MPEG2 is more visually significant. I hate those MPEG blocks!

"DVs' chroma needs to be translated to mpeg2's chroma sampling, before any other filter."

I'm not sure what you mean. I'm currently converting to YUY2, then IVTC, then de-noise, then frameserving to Vegas, where I'll edit, color correct, make the colors broadcast safe, and render out the MPEG2 and burn in DVD Architect. Is there a problem with that workflow?

"Wow! More scenes! Those have to go in. You could get the theatrical audio from the dvd, assuming it's the theatrical cut."

I wouldn't say there are more scenes, since I can only confirm the "peeing in a cup" scene so far. But I think if they didn't cut that for Telemundo, they probably didn't make any edits for content.