Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I'm no fan of Baldwin or calling little kids pigs, but seriously, this is being blown way out of proportion. This is not something the national news should be focusing on.
I swear, next we're going to get a story that President Bush accidentally sneezed on Nancy Pelosi.
Then a bunch of psychoanalysts are going to come on CNN and say that it's symptomatic of the struggle between men and women in America.
That was hilarious. I really did LOL at that one. I like how we jump from one obession to another, first it is "racist radio hosts" with bad hair, then it is a phycho killer, now it is Baldwin and his daughter. I can't wait to see what CNN brings us tomorrow.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Well, maybe it's just me but i just don't think that it is that bad. I've heard and seen much worse than an 11 year old girl being called pig. One thing I've learned in years past is that sometimes there are ways that family members talk to each other that is totally accepted and fine with everybody in the family that other people would construe as being terrible. All in all, Baldwin did not insult her size or physical attributes, but her behavior. I would imagine that the term "pig" within their family would imply bad or rude manners, not that she is or resembles a pig. It's not like he called her and said the last time he saw her she was getting fat and was a pig, now that would be traumatic to a childs self image. Here is an example, whenever I was kid and I was unruly, my family often said I was "showing my ass" which infers to me that I was being stubborn and showing that side of me. As I've gotten older I've learned that this phrase is not too common among people outside the southern United States and therefor, they would not quickly understand it. Now if my Dad was to call me when I was 11 and leave a ranting message that I was "showing my ass", then some would over analyze it thinking that my Dad was literally saying I showing my ass and not referring to behavior. Seeing what I have seen in life like 4 year old children locked in closets for months, children beaten with metal wires, and some instances of fathers berating their single digit aged daughters has "whores" and "cunts" then pig is so menial.
Those are some very good points. The part of his phone message that kind of stood out to me was the comment on the size of her brain, the pig thing seemed typically annoyed parent talk. I could not agree with you more about how much worse things parents do to their children than that. Things like the child locked in the closet that you mentioned sends chills down my spine. Back in my old construction days, a guy was telling me about a run down house he was remodeling and he mentioned that the kitchen pantry, which was large enough to put a child in, had had a lock mounted on the outside. Even the possibility of things like this are horrifying.